Possible terrorist attacks in Brussels

Started by Ushgarak10 pages

It doesn't reflect anything remotely of the sort- what a foolish statement. I asked for this thread to stay respectful and for wider debate to go on in one of the many other threads where these arguments go on and on. If you had bothered to read my posts properly you would have known that. You don't know a damn thing about my political views on the subject- you're just looking to cause trouble. My telling people to keep stuff out of this thread has nothing to do with discussing the root cause or not- it is everything to do with people not being disrespectful imbeciles shamefully looking to make cheap political points out of a tragedy. Now you've joined that group of people that should be ashamed.

Take your politics out of this thread. Consider this a warning.

I am truly ashamed of myself.

RIP to the victims.

#BelgianStrong

Now onto more pressing matters:

Whats on reality TV tonight, anyone know?

How about something actually on-topic and relevant?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35876809

Hunt on for suspect.

Originally posted by KidRock
Ironically, this post reflects the current European ideology of, "If you discuss the root cause of all this violence, we will shun you from society and lock you up for being insensitive"

This attack will turn out like every other one has. People will change their Facebook picture to the Belgian flag, people will write #BelgianStrong and politicians will stand up at the podium and say, "This..is a terrible tragedy"

And that will be the end of it, until the next attack..rinse and repeat.

SPOT ON. but they won't see it this way and take offense.

Are you insinuating that we should persecute an entire ethnic group for the actions of a few people? No. The only people that should be held accountable for this act are the terrorist themselves.

Originally posted by KidRock
Ironically, this post reflects the current European ideology of, "If you discuss the root cause of all this violence, we will shun you from society and lock you up for being insensitive"

This attack will turn out like every other one has. People will change their Facebook picture to the Belgian flag, people will write #BelgianStrong and politicians will stand up at the podium and say, "This..is a terrible tragedy"

And that will be the end of it, until the next attack..rinse and repeat.

Sounds familiar in relation to another problem involving mass killings in another country.

Thoughts and prayers with those affected. On a lighter note, this should make van Damme target ISIS

Cleary these suicide bombers were in retaliation to the arrest of their leader 4 days ago. Mind you this is the guy that chickened out on the night of the Paris attacks.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Considering Islam has very specific rules on warfare, and how they're not supposed to slaughter women and children, or vandalize and destroy property, then no, they're not properly following Islam, hence why the rest of the Islamic world denounces them.
Thanks for proving you dont know jack about islam.

Those rules only apply to other Muslims, not to infidels. Its like the oft quoted "killing one man is like killing the whole world." ONLY applies to Muslims killing other Muslims.

God......you people are ridiculous.

Originally posted by Peace Keeper
Thanks for proving you dont know jack about islam.

Those rules only apply to other Muslims, not to infidels. Its like the oft quoted "killing one man is like killing the whole world." ONLY applies to Muslims killing other Muslims.

God......you people are ridiculous.

Those rules were set up when Islam was going about conquering foreign regions that held different religions, so no, they don't apply to just to Islam. Further more, the people of those regions that they incorporated were usually Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, which applied the Dhimmi status to them, which protected them under Islamic laws.

Try again 👇

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Those rules were set up when Islam was going about conquering foreign regions that held different religions, so no, they don't apply to just to Islam. Further more, the people of those regions that they incorporated were usually Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, which applied the Dhimmi status to them, which protected them under Islamic laws.

Try again 👇


Quote the scripture.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Those rules were set up when Islam was going about conquering foreign regions that held different religions, so no, they don't apply to just to Islam. Further more, the people of those regions that they incorporated were usually Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, which applied the Dhimmi status to them, which protected them under Islamic laws.

Try again 👇

You have no proof of what you say.

At the end of the day, terrorist attacks has nothing to do with Islam as far as I know. Also, racist doctrine is bad.

We should look at peaceful protest.

I don't know solutions.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You have no proof of what you say.
Originally posted by Peace Keeper
Quote the scripture.

During his life, Muhammad gave various injunctions to his forces and adopted practices toward the conduct of war. The most important of these were summarized by Muhammad's companion and first Caliph, Abu Bakr, in the form of ten rules for the Muslim army:[7]

“ O people! I charge you with ten rules; learn them well!
Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone.[7]

You are going to enter Egypt a land where qirat (money unit) is used. Be extremely good to them as they have with us close ties and marriage relationships. When you enter Egypt after my death, recruit many soldiers from among the Egyptians because they are the best soldiers on earth, as they and their wives are permanently on duty until the Day of Resurrection. Be good to the Copts of Egypt; you shall take them over, but they shall be your instrument and help. Be Righteous to God about the Copts.
On the twentieth of Maskaram, Theodore and all his troops and officers set out and proceeded to the island of Cyprus, and abandoned the city of Alexandria. And thereupon 'Amr the chief of the Moslem made his entry without effort into the city of Alexandria. And the inhabitants received him with respect; for they were in great tribulation and affliction. And Abba Benjamin, the patriarch of the Egyptians, returned to the city of Alexandria in the thirteenth year after his flight from the Romans, and he went to the Churches, and inspected all of them. And every one said: 'This expulsion (of the Romans) and victory of the Moslem is due to the wickedness of the emperor Heraclius and his persecution of the Orthodox through the patriarch Cyrus. This was the cause of the ruin of the Romans and the subjugation of Egypt by the Moslem. And 'Amr became stronger every day in every field of his activity. And he exacted the taxes which had been determined upon, but he took none of the property of the Churches, and he committed no act of spoliation or plunder, and he preserved them throughout all his days.[11]

The principles established by the early Caliphs were also honoured during the Crusades, as exemplified by Sultans such as Saladin and Al-Kamil. For example, after Al-Kamil defeated the Franks during the Crusades, Oliverus Scholasticus praised the Islamic laws of war, commenting on how Al-Kamil supplied the defeated Frankish army with food:[12]

“ Who could doubt that such goodness, friendship and charity come from God? Men whose parents, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, had died in agony at our hands, whose lands we took, whom we drove naked from their homes, revived us with their own food when we were dying of hunger and showered us with kindness even when we were in their power.[13]

As I said before, the Islamic empire was filled with people of other religions, and randomly slaughtering them would only have pissed people off and caused unnecessary revolts and loss of manpower. Furthermore, they benefited greatly from the Jizya tax that non-believers were to pay. Sorry, but the burden of proof is on you, you're the one claiming the Islamic doctrine of war only applies to other Muslims. 👇

Well, again, a protracted argument about what Islam does or does not stand for really belongs in another thread, where again such arguments are already present.

There's also the matter that Isis, specifically, views other muslims as their number-1 enemy and one of their biggest reasons for striking Europe is to stir up Islamophobia. So it kinda plays into Isis's hands as well.

Salah Abdeslam was part of Brussels bomb plot, so its official, there are ISIS cells in Europe

http://www.politico.eu/article/salah-abdeslam-was-part-of-brussels-bomb-plot/

And up to 5000 in Europe

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/isis-up-to-5000-jihadists-in-europe-after-returning-from-terror-training-camps-daesh-islamic-state-a6885961.html

http://time.com/4267339/brussels-terrorist-attacks-latest/

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Salah Abdeslam was part of Brussels bomb plot, so its official, there are ISIS cells in Europe

http://www.politico.eu/article/salah-abdeslam-was-part-of-brussels-bomb-plot/

And up to 5000 in Europe

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/isis-up-to-5000-jihadists-in-europe-after-returning-from-terror-training-camps-daesh-islamic-state-a6885961.html

They just need to execute Salah now.

Originally posted by Surtur
They just need to execute Salah now.

There is no death penalty in the EU.