Originally posted by Raisen
rob. i stand by my statement. you are trying to use it as a weapon. look man, can you for once just climb out of that liberal straight jacket and try to reason
All I said was "agreed' to a statement you made, literally that's all. How is that attacking you/using something as a weapon?
Would you prefer I said "disagreed"? Honestly, it seems like you're doing flips now because TI didn't agree with me agreeing.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
What's funny is it's the liberals defending Islam and the conservatives trying to wake everyone up. But at the same time being told they are racist for doing so.
The way I see it, conservatives who adopt strong anti-Muslim stances are often opposed to Islam simply because it clashes with their Christian beliefs and represents a dangerous rival to Christianity. While they might have legitimate gripes with the oppressive nature of many Islamic societies, I find this is often just a screen for good old fashioned religious rivalry.
*I'm not one of these people. I oppose blanket discrimination against Muslims or treating them as dangerous simply for being Muslims, but I find nothing at all admirable about the Islamic faith and its practices, and I do think the world would probably be better off without it.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
*I'm not one of these people. I oppose blanket discrimination against Muslims or treating them as dangerous simply for being Muslims, but I find nothing at all admirable about the Islamic faith and its practices, and I do think the world would probably be better off without it.
Agreed; I actually said something similar in part earlier today, but I'm still an Islam-lover or something
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Certain* liberals defend the tenets of Islam because they confuse Islam with Muslims and think to support Muslims you also have to accept everything about Islam. I think a lot of it also comes from cultural relativism, which is a very influential ethical doctrine among lots of liberals and progressives, even though it's just plain stupid when you examine it.The way I see it, conservatives who adopt strong anti-Muslim stances are often opposed to Islam simply because it clashes with their Christian beliefs and represents a dangerous rival to Christianity. While they might have legitimate gripes with the oppressive nature of many Islamic societies, I find this is often just a screen for good old fashioned religious rivalry.
*I'm not one of these people. I oppose blanket discrimination against Muslims or treating them as dangerous simply for being Muslims, but I find nothing at all admirable about the Islamic faith and its practices, and I do think the world would probably be better off without it.
Removing religion, nothing about Islam coincides with liberal beliefs. They factually are direct opposite to each other.
This has nothing to do with religion. Stop trying to make it about religion, such as Rob tried to do.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You gave so such answer.
Why do you play these games when all I have to do is post a quote with the link?
Anyhow, I underlined the like parts:
Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, okay. You're saying I love Islam again. That's as wrong now as it was every other time you've said it. I don't love Islam, I don't even like it; it's a tool easily used for oppression by some, imo. But people are free to worship how they please, as long as that worship doesn't intrude on others' rights/freedoms.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
The way I see it, conservatives who adopt strong anti-Muslim stances are often opposed to Islam simply because it clashes with their Christian beliefs and represents a dangerous rival to Christianity. While they might have legitimate gripes with the oppressive nature of many Islamic societies, I find this is often just a screen for good old fashioned religious rivalry.
So why is ISIS bombing Europe?? The same people that is taking in their own people and giving them food and shelter??
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So why is ISIS bombing Europe?? The same people that is taking in their own people and giving them food and shelter??
Because that's a massive threat to ISIS? Their terrorist attacks are likely calculated to create a backlash against Muslims that will force Muslims to turn to ISIS or extremism. The last thing ISIS wants is Muslims living peacefully in Europe and getting successfully integrated.