Order These Marvel Characters By Purely Physical Strength

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Except that thing made suns look like golf balls. I'm not comparing high end Savage Hulk. I'm comparing high end Thor to average and/or regular Savage Hulk.

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Show me the same level of immediate destruction when Mjolnir level weapons collided. I can think of a few, but nothing has even come close.

Its a Mjlonir ft, not Thor's. Mjlonir hits harder than Thor fist. This is indisputable. Can Thor at his highest of strength punch fists with another Thor (key word, FIST) and melt Hercules? Yes or no. Thor at the height of his strength (without any amps).

Thor with the power gem wasn't even dishing out that kind of power.

Originally posted by carver9
Its a Mjlonir ft, not Thor's. Mjlonir hits harder than Thor fist. This is indisputable. Can Thor at his highest of strength punch fists with another Thor (key word, FIST) and melt Hercules? Yes or no. Thor at the height of his strength (without any amps).

Ok. Lets go step by step. What level of strength do you think it took for Thor and Bill to hurl their hammers ultimately creating a shockwave powerful enough to destroy a structure that dwarfed suns...?

Originally posted by carver9
Thor with the power gem wasn't even dishing out that kind of power.

I'm going to get to my point.

Don't worry because all will be revealed.

I highly doubt if two Thors collided fists they would do this in a single hit. Hell, give them as many hits as you want, they are not achieving this. That big guy that is melting is 17 times more powerful than Hercules.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It's a Thor feat w/Mjolnir.

Ok. Lets go step by step. What level of strength do you think it took for Thor and Bill to hurl their hammers ultimately creating a shockwave powerful enough to destroy a structure that dwarfed suns...?

Right.
I'm going to get to my point.

Don't worry because all will be revealed.

Yes, with Mjlonir. Thor physical might cant match Mjlonir power.

I dont know what level of strength it took to destroy that portal. How big were the suns?

So you admit Thor cant physically achieve what Hulk did without his hammer?

I also dont know what level of strength it took since Mjlnor has shown to fly FTL without the aid of Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes, with Mjlonir. Thor physical might cant match Mjlonir power.

I dont know what level of strength it took to destroy that portal. How big were the suns?

So you admit Thor cant physically achieve what Hulk did without his hammer?

I also dont know what level of strength it took since Mjlnor has shown to fly FTL without the aid of Thor.

Assume it's a regular size star/sun. Look at the foreground sun depicted with a revolving planet and moon. It's a sun sized sun. Lol... Don't know that question needs to be asked. It's like me hounding you for how big the planet was in HotM. Or question you what the planet was made of since it was in a funky dimension. Get me?

No. Why would I admit Thor can't physically replicate HotM if the destruction he and Bill caused with Mjolnir literally took a big dump on Hulk and Betty's level of destruction? Literally.

As for Mjolnir speed, don't you have to prove that he made Mjolnir fly without the use of his arms there? That's usually the case unless it's there's something in the comic that leads you to that conclusion. Unless I'm missing something, it's really not indicated any where in that book.

Is colossus still around? Havent read any xmen in ages.

1) Hyperion

2) WWH/Hercules

3) Thor

4) Namor

5) Colossus

6) She-Hulk

7) Cage

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Mjolnir physical might? Mjolnir durability? What do you mean?

Assume it's a regular size star/sun. Look at the foreground sun depicted with a revolving planet and moon. It's a sun sized sun. Lol... Don't know that question needs to be asked. It's like me hounding you for how big the planet was in HotM. Or question you what the planet was made of since it was in a funky dimension. Get me?

No. Why would I admit Thor can't physically replicate HotM if the destruction he and Bill caused with Mjolnir literally took a big dump on Hulk and Betty's level of destruction? Literally.

As for Mjolnir speed, don't you have to prove that he made Mjolnir fly without the use of his arms there? That's usually the case unless it's there's something in the comic that leads you to that conclusion. Unless I'm missing something, it's really not indicated any where in that book.

Ill respond to this in a min.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Look at Thor's size in comparison to the star on the left. It's about the same size as Thor himself. You might say that this is because the star is much closer to the portal than Thor is. So it's a matter of perspective. Ok let's go with that.

Now look at the star to the left again. You see the demons coming out of the portal is even closer than that star. This is because the star overlaps them. I labeled everything. So this means that the demons are the size of stars or bigger. But wait, they aren't as I've shown in the other scans.

Also look at the corner of the portal that I circled at the bottom. This area will be referenced again. Since it's closer than the star then it should be bigger than the star right?

You see the same corner here where Thor is right on it. It's the size of Thor himself.

And to prove that the demons are the same size as Thor and not the size of normal stars.

So in conclusion, either the stars were miniature, or the art is wrong. If the latter then nothing can be trusted except the fact that the portal corners were the size of Thor himself and there are a total of 8 corners. This means that the portal wasn't anywhere near the size of anything heavenly.

Beta Ray Bill did most of the work, anyway.

Yeah, the portal wasn't size of stars or anything. Thor was able to simply hop to the other side of the portal.

But pwned by h1?

crylaugh

Originally posted by h1a8
You know I debunked this feat a long time ago right? The portal was very small. I'll prove it.

Look at Thor's size in comparison to the star on the left. It's about the same size as Thor himself. You might say that this is because the star is much closer to the portal than Thor is. So it's a matter of perspective. Ok let's go with that.

Now look at the star to the left again. You see the demons coming out of the portal is even closer than that star. This is because the star overlaps them. I labeled everything. So this means that the demons are the size of stars or bigger. But wait, they aren't as I've shown in the other scans.

Also look at the corner of the portal that I circled at the bottom. This area will be referenced again. Since it's closer than the star then it should be bigger than the star right?

You see the same corner here where Thor is right on it. It's the size of Thor himself.

And to prove that the demons are the same size as Thor and not the size of normal stars.

So in conclusion, either the stars were miniature, or the art is wrong. If the latter then nothing can be trusted except the fact that the portal corners were the size of Thor himself and there are a total of 8 corners. This means that the portal wasn't anywhere near the size of anything heavenly.

Bro. Artistic impression... You only seem to understand it in Superman feats.

By your line of thinking, Superman sneezed a mini solar system.

This must be an alternate earth because that would male Hal and Clark the size of small continents.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, the portal wasn't size of stars or anything. Thor was able to simply hop to the other side of the portal.

But pwned by h1?

crylaugh

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

You? I know you know, but why do it to yourself?

Originally posted by abhilegend
But pwned by h1?

crylaugh

h1 retains his free will.

Jane does not. Rage's puppet. And without him pulling strings... well... things aren't going too well.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Okay, thanks 👆

Here's the scans of Hulk vs the Avengers. Hyperion was there but I don't see him in the battle, so I guess I was wrong on this one.

I also provided a scan where Banner admits it was him instead of the alternate Hulk.

From Avengers v5 #27

Here's the scan that proves Bruce was impersonating the Tyrant Hulk.

I guess I don't need to respond to Celey post. Seems like Abhi and H1 got that.

Thanks. I remember that scene, it was used to troll you that the Hulk was affected by that time gun 😛 Contradicting what was shown in Waid's Hulk run... against Zarrko.

Hulk regularly owns Thor, it's hilarious 😂 At least he wasn't KO'd here.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
durpalm
The amount of fail here is almost equal to the amount of butthurt.

Bro. Artistic impression... You only seem to understand it in Superman feats.

By your line of thinking, Superman sneezed a mini solar system.

This must be an alternate earth because that would male Hal and Clark the size of small continents.

abhidur

Neither of your counter examples stack up.

-PC Supes is in the foreground, and his sneeze expands outward in the background to solar system size. The fidelity of PC art tended to be bad anyway.

-Supes and Hal are clearly in the very foreground and the Earth is well behind them. Even the cable connecting them could simply be expanding outward, and thus the width appears the same by that perspective (it doesn't, going by other scans of the scene, but the point is its a clear artistic mistake at worst).

The scans for your scene on the other hand have far too many dubious elements going on to be valid.

The demons they are fighting would clearly have to be star sized, seeing as they are behind the stars as they come out of the portal, and we even see them right next to the stars/planets also (with the star's light shining on their purple mass). And then we see that Thor and Bill are the same size as the demons as they stand next to them, even while they fight right in front of the portal itself, which is not huge at all.

So either its a miniature star system, or Thor and Bill are both scaled up to be star sized to match the demons by some illusionary randomness, or the stars being there is all some projection or illusion or some shit, and the stars and planets aren't actually there. Could simply be metaphorical in nature.

Artistic error is not a valid save for these scans as there are far too many instances that show things are not straightforward.