Originally posted by operator616
the new handbook re-retcons the original Beyonder's feats. It says that he easily defeated the Celestials in SW 2 and specifically references LT and the others unable to stop him while killing the abstract death. While also referencing his new child unit origins, and the Beyonders stomping the entire Marvel hierarchy.Apart from that we have Beyonders being the creators of the multiverse; God doom usurping Eternity, Shaper's power (a cube being) being able to recreate the universe (and Galactus) from scratch easily. All this leads me to believe that they were meant to be above abstracts.
I really can't wrap my head around the low showings, though. They don't make any sense whatsoever to me.
Who do you think wins?
Originally posted by Stoic
I've seen most people replying to this thread, placing the burden of proof on Doom, but who did the Anti Monitor face and defeat, that makes him exempt from the same scrutiny?
Deadman, Superman, Psycho Pirate, Earth, the Monitor, Guardian's of the Universe, all the Lanterns, the Universe, all the universes.
Originally posted by Quick Freeze
Deadman, Superman, Psycho Pirate, Earth, the Monitor, Guardian's of the Universe, all the Lanterns, the Universe, all the universes.
Everything he does is done with prep/tech or after absorbing the anti-matter universe. He himself nearly gets stomped by Supergirl as well as his own Stormers. And since he is argued by so many to be the same character, he is nearly stomped by Darkseid.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Everything he does is done with prep/tech or after absorbing the anti-matter universe. He himself nearly gets stomped by Supergirl as well as his own Stormers. And since he is argued by so many to be the same character, he is nearly stomped by Darkseid.
...and everything Doom does is via Prep and/or gaining the IG. Sp\o lets discount his IG feats, yes?
Otherwise, he gets whipped by the Thing.
hypocrite.
Originally posted by Stoic
I've seen most people replying to this thread, placing the burden of proof on Doom, but who did the Anti Monitor face and defeat, that makes him exempt from the same scrutiny?
The only AM that can content and beat this Doom, is End Of Time AM. That AM fought a Spectre that was amped to the point that he was witnessing all that was, all that would be, and all that never was.
This AM was also amped on two Infinite’s Multiverses.