Originally posted by RobtardWhy do we have to have one and not both? Vincent both LOOKS and ACTS like the Kingpin. He does a fantastic job. If he were black, sure; he'd still be great. But it wouldn't be AS accurate.
I wouldn't call anyone a racist for just wanting a character's skin-color to remain true to the source material, it's just a petty thing to worry about if skin color/race isn't crucial the character. Look at it this way, I'd rather have a great actor of a different skin color than what the character traditionally is that will do the role properly, than have a 'color-correct' meh actor shit all over the role.
Again, I'm ALL FOR racial diversity in comics. I just don't like the lazy route that studios are taking. It's not only a slap in the face of long time fans, but it's honestly a disservice to the race replacing said character. Instead, as I said, they need to DEVELOP NEW characters of race and different genders. Put an ace writer on them and let them flourish. Don't just replace characters that have been around forever. That's lazy and pandering; and it's going to at BEST only upset a select group of people.
So yah, develop new characters and push the other established minority characters to the limelight.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Why do we have to have one and not both? Vincent both LOOKS and ACTS like the Kingpin. He does a fantastic job. If he were black, sure; he'd still be great. But it wouldn't be AS accurate.Again, I'm ALL FOR racial diversity in comics. I just don't like the lazy route that studios are taking. It's not only a slap in the face of long time fans, but it's honestly a disservice to the race replacing said character. Instead, as I said, they need to DEVELOP NEW characters of race and different genders. Put an ace writer on them and let them flourish. Don't just replace characters that have been around forever. That's lazy and pandering; and it's going to at BEST only upset a select group of people.
So yah, develop new characters and push the other established minority characters to the limelight.
Never said both would be a problem. Just that in some cases skin color is largely irrelevant to the character. Kingpin was an example.
Again, my example in using Kingpin was that I don't think the studio was race-pandering to anyone in this specific case. MCD physically fit the role aside from skin color, but as noted above, KP's race/color is largely irrelevant to the character. Now if KP were traditionally a Mafia or Yakuza mob boss, I could see where not casting (or at least passable) an Italian or Japanese actor would be a problem.
I'm sure they're have been cases where a non-white actor was cast for a traditionally white character for no other reason than "look, we're diverse". None come to mind, but I imagine it does and has happened.
Originally posted by RobtardI don't vehemently disagree, though I don't necessarily agree either. That being said, Deadshot being black, Heimdall being black, etc etc....it's not the end of the world. I still don't necessarily like it though. I feel that the truer to the characters the better. I'm just old school that way.
Just that in some cases skin color is largely irrelevant to the character. Kingpin was an example.
Originally posted by Silent Master
He does seem to play the same character, but consider what happens when he doesn't, we get "Cypher Raige".
Good point, but not being Will Smith has also giving us Paul (Six Degrees of Separation) and Chris Gardner (The Pursuit of Happyness), arguably his two best performances and solid performances they were, though Will Smith did poke his head out in TPoH a little.
He was also decent in I Am Legend, imo, even though that was an abortion to Matheson's source material and Will Smith did poke his head out in the Shrek scene.
So Smith has the potential to give us a good Deadshot, I'm just not banking on it, I'm expecting to see Will Smith again.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Yah, I'm sick to death of this shit. One reason I'm boycotting Marvel comics atm (not the movies just the comics)
Better not be all their comics
do have some other good books out besides the Thor book....if that's what your referring to (not that i have a problem with it)