Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Because? It'd be one thing if it wasn't even possible, but it is, extremely so. the idea that Malgus is some sort of Vader-tier combatant needs to die.
First off I never claimed Malgus was Vader tier, he's close but he'd never take a round. Secondly, the quote outright says a team was needed to take Malgus down. If you've got any evidence that Wrath took/could take Malgus per feats than by all means.
Originally posted by carthage
First off I never claimed Malgus was Vader tier, he's close but he'd never take a round.
Secondly, the quote outright says a team was needed to take Malgus down. If you've got any evidence that Wrath took/could take Malgus per feats than by all means.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceWhich is also a game mechanic added to all the flashpoints.
No, I meant since they added it as "story mode" specifically to solo. It was able to be solo'd before, and the dialogue is from before this.
But yes I'm aware the dialogue is prior, but not seeing anything that specifically states it was a solo op.
No, it's only obvious that at least a protagonist went, but the idea that the empire sent an agent that doesn't even need to be there, a Dark Council Member, oh, and this random Bounty Hunter, along with the Wrath to go kill any one one person, is pretty unbelievable in itself, but that the Republic also sent its two greatest Jedi, when they didn't do that to even face Revan or the Dread Masters, along with a Smuggler with no connection to the government and a trooper that should be leading Havoc, is nonsensical. It always has been.Lol, all I see here is personal opinion. Its long been established that all the protagonists are among the "galaxies greatest champions" - and frankly seeing as several of them have taken on and taken down powerful Jedi and Sith, its hardly unwarranted.
On the other hand, the idea that they would send one individual to take on not just Emperor Malgus, but his entire space station of elites (oh and planetary army) is what is ridiculous, clearly not a solo mission.
Not sure what point you are trying to make regarding the Dread Masters or Revan, when sizeable strike teams of the same individuals were dispatched to face both of them.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceHeroes i.e. plural. Lol.
No, the quote says the Empire and Republic sent its greatest heroes, which means the player without saying the player, to defeat Malgus. It gives no indication of team size, or even the fact that a team is even there. Finally, actual in game evidence shows it's possible by the fact they recorded for and allow these possibilities to play. Seriously.
No, he really isn't. and being close to Vader makes you in his tier. That's basic Engrish.
Canon Vader in skill has nothing placing him over Malgus, Composite Vader with Legends feats does. Unless you think Malgus would die to Ben Kenobi or non force sensitive Karbin, Malgus is as skilled as current Vader like it or not.
No, the quote says the Empire and Republic sent its greatest heroes, which means the player without saying the player, to defeat Malgus. It gives no indication of team size, or even the fact that a team is even there. Finally, actual in game evidence shows it's possible by the fact they recorded for and allow these possibilities to play. Seriously.
It says heroes plural, which indicates a team. So unlless you've got actual evidence Wrath beat him alone, you've got no case and we really don't know how many and or what participants were involved hence why you should argue by feats and not lowballing lol.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Heroes i.e. plural. Lol.
I think he's referring to the fact that there are multiple factions mentioned, so it would be plural even if there was only one. "The Sith and Jedi sent their greatest hero" wouldn't work, that implies Jedi and Sith both support the same hero.
Originally posted by NewGuy01Well there is also the Battle of Ilum description, which is actually much more clear:
I think he's referring to the fact that there are multiple factions mentioned, so it would be plural even if there was only one. "The Sith and Jedi sent their greatest hero" wouldn't work, that implies Jedi and Sith both support the same hero.
With this new Empire posing a threat to both the Republic and Empire, both sides assemble teams of their most powerful and experienced heroes. Their mission: fight through the renegade's forces, commandeer one of their ships and make their way to the Sith traitor's battlestation.
Originally posted by NephthysSurely steady growth in power is just a logical implication... why would he/she stagnate?
Act III Wrath isn't that much better than Act II Wrath, if at all. Theres no mention of him improving, iirc. And he's already got the majority of his feats.
Originally posted by NephthysPerhaps, personally though I'd assume a similar level of growth to the HoT. Fresh out of carbonite he's claiming to be stronger than he was in Act 2, ergo the Act 2 Wrath could well be assumed sub-Outlander tier. And I don't see Vader giving that level of ability the time of day if he's getting dominated by Arcann.
Well if he'd already reached a high level where further growth would be slower and not that significant over a mere year.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceGood. 🙂
Beni debating semantics aside, I don't place any protag before Ziost ahead of Ahsoka.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Perhaps, personally though I'd assume a similar level of growth to the HoT. Fresh out of carbonite he's claiming to be stronger than he was in Act 2, ergo the Act 2 Wrath could well be assumed sub-Outlander tier. And I don't see Vader giving that level of ability the time of day if he's getting dominated by Arcann.
Jesus, Ahsoka v Vader hasn't even happened yet. Also Vader's given people the time of day who are way below an Act 1 protag. 🙄
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Beni debating semantics aside, I don't place any protag before Ziost ahead of Ahsoka.
Originally posted by NephthysWhich is why I said "pending Twlight of the Apprentice" - that said I intepret Filoni's statement that she will be capable of contending with him one that rules out telekinetic domination.
Jesus, Ahsoka v Vader hasn't even happened yet.
I'm also accounting for the fact that she's doing this on presumably a powerful dark side nexus.
Also Vader's given people the time of day who are way below an Act 1 protag. 🙄Like even?
Originally posted by FreshestSliceFresh understands. 🙂
Ahsoka is a Palpatine saberist now. Accept it, as I have.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Well there is also the Battle of Ilum description, which is actually much more clear:With this new Empire posing a threat to both the Republic and Empire, both sides assemble teams of their most powerful and experienced heroes. Their mission: fight through the renegade's forces, commandeer one of their ships and make their way to the Sith traitor's battlestation.
So everyone present on the battle station fought Malgus?