Thor vs Doomsday

You can also, you know, stop using HV if its being deflected back.

Originally posted by Placidity
You can also, you know, stop using HV if its being deflected back.

That too.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I don't see why not. Kryptonians can withstand their own heat vision (with some pain), Doomsday should be able to survive his own as well.

Kryptonians getting hit in the arm,leg or body by their own heat vision I believe they can survive. The example I provided was the heat vision being deflected back at their eyes. And our eyes is much closer to our brain. This is the conundrum that I provided since Thor used his ability to manipulate the winds and his hammer to deflect an attack back at its attacker. What's more impressive is that he used his hammer to jam the Destroyers visor beam. Which ended the fight. Imagine If Thor did the same thing to El Gigante(Doomsday). El Gigante(Doomsday) gets hit with his own HV back in his eyes that results in self lobotomy. There is nothing to suggest El Gigante(Doomsday) wont get lobotomized by his own heat ray vision.

Originally posted by Placidity
You can also, you know, stop using HV if its being deflected back.

Lets not pretend that El Gigante(Doomsday) is capable of thinking strategy and tactics. He was purely rage and ferocity. I don't think El Gigante(Doomsday) is just gonna think "Hey his deflecting my heat ray vision! I should stop doing that!" He was purely hit everything in site when he fought the trio. There's nothing to suggest El Gigante(Doomsday) is capable of thought. He was purely animalistic 😈

Thor loses unless he has Kryptonite spear.

Still not one reason to suggest Doomsday can get up from the hammer being laid on his chest. Thor ftw.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Still not one reason to suggest Doomsday can get up from the hammer being laid on his chest. Thor ftw.

Thor would need to knock Doomsday down first, which is not happening.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Thor would need to knock Doomsday down first, which is not happening.

Why are we even talking about Thor calling up a whirlwind? He can't do it instantly. Why does Doomsday stand there and allow this to occur?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why can't he knock him down again ?

Who is the strongest person to fail to lift the hammer and how strong is Doomsday in comparison to that person? In other words, how strong is DD compared to Hulk?

Was doomsday fast enough to take out Batman ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why can't he knock him down again ?

Because he's much weaker.

Is that your way of saying Doomsday would just stand and allow Thor to create this whirlwind? Heck there were times Thor had to deflect energy blasts inside the whirlwind with his hammer. This entire strategy just doesn't seem like a good idea.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Was doomsday fast enough to take out Batman ?

Batman had to be saved by Wonder Woman as I recall.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Because he's much weaker.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Batman had to be saved by Wonder Woman as I recall.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So weaker beings can't ever knock down stronger ones ? You first need to prove he's stronger.

But wait your argument doesn't even make sense. You say it requires skill to swat the hammer away like Kurse did. Even if we did say that was 100% true(it isn't) then can you explain why it takes skill to remove the hammer from atop your chest?

Or are you going to argue that Kurse could swat the hammer away, but if Thor had merely placed it on his chest when he was on the ground he would of been helpless?

Originally posted by Surtur
But wait your argument doesn't even make sense. You say it requires skill to swat the hammer away like Kurse did. Even if we did say that was 100% true(it isn't) then can you explain why it takes skill to remove the hammer from atop your chest?

Or are you going to argue that Kurse could swat the hammer away, but if Thor had merely placed it on his chest when he was on the ground he would of been helpless?

It takes being worthy to remove it atop your chest. Different things.

Yes, if he placed it on Kurses chest he'd have been helpless. Kurse was too skilled to that occur.

It actually takes speed to do what Kurse did. More speed then actual skill.

Also you are then saying the hammer basically has a swatting vulnerability? Since saying it can be swatted but not moved from your chest is saying that. You see you don't have to lift the hammer up with your hands to get it off your chest if you have enough strength. You could just kind of...roll over. Why that wouldn't work, but you can swat the thing away is beyond me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It took time to hv and it wasn't that fast since batman avoided it despite being damaged.

You're acting like DD and Batman were fighting alone, when in reality Superman and WW were the ones fighting him most of the time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So weaker beings can't ever knock down stronger ones ? You first need to prove he's stronger.

He was much stronger than Superman, who is >> Thor in strength feats.

Originally posted by Surtur
It actually takes speed to do what Kurse did. More speed then actual skill.

Also you are then saying the hammer basically has a swatting vulnerability? Since saying it can be swatted but not moved from your chest is saying that. You see you don't have to lift the hammer up with your hands to get it off your chest if you have enough strength. You could just kind of...roll over. Why that wouldn't work, but you can swat the thing away is beyond me.