Darth Vader vs Prince Arcann

Started by S_W_LeGenD4 pages

Originally posted by AncientPower
How does a Force blast compare to lightning? Also Kun's amulet would have had a negligible effect on his power by his prime; given that Dynasty of Evil likened an amulet's amplification of Bane's power to putting a drop in an ocean.

Valkorion clearly unleashed a Force blast to knock Arcann from the platform because his Force lightning Storm was not producing the desirable results. Learn to differentiate between the powers. Not everything you see containing Lightning-like effects is actually Force lightning.

There are some Dark Side powers that do not manifest without the involvement of Force lightning as an ingredient. Examples include Force maelstrom and Force storm.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I'm not going to say Arcann isn't impressive. What I'm going to say is that a crate can do the exact same thing in this situation.

Then what was stopping the Outlander from using one? Your assertion is far from true.

We cannot rule out the possibility of the two hurling large objects towards each other during the phase of the confrontation that is not documented.

Originally posted by hutchy1345
If valkorion hit vader with the blast he hit arcann with
Well
There wouldn't be much of vader left his suit would probs fry in a nanosecond

This.

People tend to forget that Arcann is being officially promoted as exceptionally good in the defensive aspects of the Force. Only Valkorion's powers were able to affect him in the available content.

And Darth Vader is no where close to Valkorion.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
What I'm saying is Prime Composite Vader > Prince Arcann. Emperor Arcann I'd argue otherwise.

Fair enough

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Then what was stopping the Outlander from using one? Your assertion is far from true.

Except even Koth can drop a crate on Arcann...Like it's already happened.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
This is Arcann in his prime, I called him Prince because that is his place. πŸ™‚ Proof?

You need proof of the assertion that Valkorion's powers would destroy Darth Vader? πŸ˜‚

I would expect the same from Palpatine.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Except even Koth can drop a crate on Arcann...Like it's already happened.

That was not a crate, it was part of the structure and truly massive in size. It was a circumstantial event because Arcann was not expecting that move; he was not aware of that somebody would come to the aid of the Outlander.

I would like to see Darth Vader pull it off against Arcann without the element of surprise.

Freshest is clearly trolling. πŸ™‚

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You need proof of the assertion that Valkorion's powers would destroy Darth Vader? πŸ˜‚

I would expect the same from Palpatine.

Are you seriously asking whether I need proof of a claim? Lmao.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Are you seriously asking whether I need proof of a claim? Lmao.

Valkorion would utterly destroy Darth Vader in a duel, full stop.

Don't ask silly questions.

How is that a Force blast? The properties aren't even remotely similar to the doomray Kun produces; What Valkorion uses is probably Force destruction if anything.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That was not a crate, it was part of the structure and truly massive in size. It was a circumstantial event because Arcann was not expecting that move; he was not aware of that somebody would come to the aid of the Outlander.

I would like to see Darth Vader pull it off against Arcann without the element of surprise.


a truly massive structure? That got shot down by a rifle? M'kay. I'm pretty sure Vader would just move out of the way like anyone not hell bent on getting needless revenge. And it's still about the size of a crate.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Valkorion would utterly destroy Darth Vader in a duel, full stop.

Don't ask silly questions.

Lel. As he did to Arcann, what point exactly are you trying to make?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Valkorion would utterly destroy Darth Vader in a duel, full stop.

Probably not. No evidence supports Valkorion becoming more capable with a lightsaber between Revan and KOTFE.

πŸ™‚

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
a truly massive structure? That got shot down by a rifle? M'kay. I'm pretty sure Vader would just move out of the way like anyone not hell bent on getting needless revenge. And it's still about the size of a crate.

Yes, have a look:

Notice the size in the structure in second image? [Right side]

We are talking about Sci-Fi rifles, my friend. There firepower would be excellent. πŸ™‚

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lel. As he did to Arcann, what point exactly are you trying to make?

Arcann does not wears a cybernetic armor and nor does his life depends upon it.

Moreover, SWTOR content does not animates injures. We don't know how much injured Arcann was after the attack.

An energy field generator (used like a missile) was sufficient to wreck Darth Vader's armor and mortally wound him. This when Darth Vader was actively trying to protect himself from external barrage.

You think that Darth Vader will be able to tank Valkorion's powers? This is really idiotic and overreaching on your part.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Probably not. No evidence supports Valkorion becoming more capable with a lightsaber between Revan and KOTFE.

My bad... read it as Force powers

Lmao, cancerous. What does Vader's suit have to do with Arcann being more powerful?

It's got nothing to do with him being more powerful
But has everything to do with their ability to survive lightning or energy based attacks
You may feel vader is stronger
But arcann can survive lightning, vader can't

Eh? I asked you what proof there is that Arcann is more powerful than Vader in the Force. A claim you made. So it's got everything to do with that.

But cool, Arcann can survive lightning that might have short circuited Vader's suit. So what? If that doesn't prove Arcann's more powerful, who cares?

The size of the structure he brought down is enough proof

What structure. 😬

Never mind wrong thing
What's vaders best force feats?