Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDThis is Anakin at his fullest possible potential, Anakin may have never reached that level by normal means but clearly it was within his abilities. If it weren't his body would have been destroyed/damaged by the attempt.
Anakin Skywalker drew on the power of the Mortis realm to overwhelm Son and Daughter.I don't see how the aforementioned feat represents Anakin Skywalker's actual potential.
Mortis realm was like a conduit of the Cosmic Force itself.
The Father believe Anakin, as the Chosen One, had the power to replace him. He has fully god-level ability. 👆
Originally posted by Beniboybling
This is Anakin at his fullest possible potential, Anakin may have never reached that level by normal means but clearly it was within his abilities. If it weren't his body would have been destroyed/damaged by the attempt.The Father believe Anakin, as the Chosen One, had the power to replace him. He has fully god-level ability. 👆
You mean like how every Jedi to go Oneness gets his body destroyed?
There's clearly exceptions to that rule, and being the freaking Chosen One in the heart of the Force is a perfectly reasonable justification for how Anakin wielded that much power.
If not, then frankly the Ones are overhyped garbage. If all it takes for Anakin to curbstomp the Son and Daughter is reaching his potential then Legend is right about Valkorion kicking the shit out of them 1 on 1.
Originally posted by NephthysSure there are. But under Oneness I always assumed some kind of temporary bodily transformation that allowed them to handle that kind of power, hence why they go all glowy and shit.
You mean like how every Jedi to go Oneness gets his body destroyed?There's clearly exceptions to that rule, and being the freaking Chosen One in the heart of the Force is a perfectly reasonable justification for how Anakin wielded that much power.
If not, then frankly the Ones are overhyped garbage. If all it takes for Anakin to curbstomp the Son and Daughter is reaching his potential then Legend is right about Valkorion kicking the shit out of them 1 on 1.
And yeah, you're right. Anakin can handle that level of power because he's the Chosen One. This is the Chosen One at the fullest extent of his powers. Go figure.
And why? He's the Chosen One. And its not as if the Father and Abeloth couldn't do the same. But no, they are not quite as powerful as a lot of people presume.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Sure there are. But under Oneness I always assumed some kind of temporary bodily transformation that allowed them to handle that kind of power, hence why they go all glowy and shit.And yeah, you're right. Anakin can handle that level of power because he's the Chosen One. This is the Chosen One at the fullest extent of his powers. Go figure.
And why? He's the Chosen One. And its not as if the Father and Abeloth couldn't do the same.
I already explained, Anakin's potential isn't exponentially greater than standard Force Users. It's only twice that of Sidious. Not the bonkers 12x Luke numbers that are suggested. If that's all it takes to beat the Son or the Daughter then Valkorion could beat the shit out either of them on Mortis.
Anakin having a unique connection to Mortis that allows him to get to One level, far above anything he could achieve on his own, is the far more sensible theory.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Personally I think the Ones are that powerful, I think people just don't grasp how powerful someone twice as powerful as Sidious would really be.
Anakin restrained the Son and Daughter at the same time though. Meaning that at best, Sidious could probably do the same if he fought either of them. Or at least be on par with them.
This is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on KMC. Ngl I really like the concept for this thread, Hutch. 👆 It's just so damn funny seeing Neph anf legend put up people like Hord and Nihilus up as viable soloer's for Primakin. I can understand him being taken down by a very potent and complex ritual/technique that he has no defense against downing him, but from someone who's so vastly inferior in power I can't see it affecting him. Only two person combination I can think of is full-power prime Abeloth and Prime Father. Maybe Yuuzhan'Tar and a One? Idk how to rate Yuuzhan'Tar, but I'd imaging if it could cut an entire species of the Force then it'd be powerful. Idk, I'll make a thread for it.
Originally posted by Tondemonai
This is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on KMC. Ngl I really like the concept for this thread, Hutch. 👆 It's just so damn funny seeing Neph anf legend put up people like Hord and Nihilus up as viable soloer's for Primakin. I can understand him being taken down by a very potent and complex ritual/technique that he has no defense against downing him, but from someone who's so vastly inferior in power I can't see it affecting him. Only two person combination I can think of is full-power prime Abeloth and Prime Father. Maybe Yuuzhan'Tar and a One? Idk how to rate Yuuzhan'Tar, but I'd imaging if it could cut an entire species of the Force then it'd be powerful. Idk, I'll make a thread for it.
Darth Nihilus was an extremely dangerous manifestation of hunger. You don't take him lightly.
Originally posted by NephthysRight yeah but you are still failing to distinguish between what Anakin could have achieved under normal circumstances, and the fullest extent of power possibly achievable by Anakin. I believe we are discussing the latter. Mortis unlocked Anakin's full potential, end of, whether or not he could achieve that on his own is irrelevant.
I already explained, Anakin's potential isn't exponentially greater than standard Force Users. It's only twice that of Sidious. Not the bonkers 12x Luke numbers that are suggested. If that's all it takes to beat the Son or the Daughter then Valkorion could beat the shit out either of them on Mortis.Anakin having a unique connection to Mortis that allows him to get to One level, far above anything he could achieve on his own, is the far more sensible theory.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
This is Anakin at his fullest possible potential, Anakin may have never reached that level by normal means but clearly it was within his abilities. If it weren't his body would have been destroyed/damaged by the attempt.The Father believe Anakin, as the Chosen One, had the power to replace him. He has fully god-level ability. 👆
I don't think that this feat represents Anakin's actual potential. He is a mortal being and have limitations.
Star Wars Force and Destiny Core Rulebook make it explicitly clear that Anakin managed to draw on the power of Mortis Realm to subdue Son and Daughter.
Unfortunately, one of my laptops is down at the moment and it contains the data. I need time to get access to it. Hopefully tomorrow.