Lex's blood/dna mixed with Zods created DD. So DD is part human in a way. So we seen the Mind gem affecting humans just fine.
But the gems in general are cosmic in their power. So like ive said before , Its silly to think the gems wont work on all forms of organic life. Even inorganic like the planet it destroyed.
Originally posted by Silent MasterSweet! The Guardians of the Galaxy managed to hold one. I guess that means they can survive the planet busting attack shown in their movie. That gives them greater durability feats than anyone in the MCU or DCCU!
He also once stated that merely being powerful enough to hold an infinity stone is proof that you can survive someone using it's full power against you.
InB4 his Rocket Racoon vs Doomsday thread
Originally posted by InhumanAgreed, but you know how people debate on these forums. "If it didn't happen on screen its not valid!" :/
Lex's blood/dna mixed with Zods created DD. So DD is part human in a way. So we seen the Mind gem affecting humans just fine.But the gems in general are cosmic in their power. So like ive said before , Its silly to think the gems wont work on all forms of organic life. Even inorganic like the planet it destroyed.
brb we've never seen Hawkeye use a gun, so he probably cant
brb Professor Xavier cant mind control Black Widow, its never happened
brb Pheonix cant atomize Spiderman, she's never done it
Originally posted by Inhuman
Lex's blood/dna mixed with Zods created DD. So DD is part human in a way. So we seen the Mind gem affecting humans just fine.But the gems in general are cosmic in their power. So like ive said before , Its silly to think the gems wont work on all forms of organic life. Even inorganic like the planet it destroyed.
The thing is, the gems aren't of Earthly origin, thus it being able to effect humans is proof that it works on aliens. IOW, there is zero reason to believe DD being an alien would in anyway protect him.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Agreed, but you know how people debate on these forums. "If it didn't happen on screen its not valid!" :/brb we've never seen Hawkeye use a gun, so he probably cant
brb Professor Xavier cant mind control Black Widow, its never happened
brb Pheonix cant atomize Spiderman, she's never done it
yeah i know.
We see the gems used as weapons and affecting all forms of organic and inorganic things. I dont see how out of all the infinity gems only the Mind gen cant affect anything more than human beings. Why would the Mind gem be any less special than the rest.
Originally posted by Inhuman
We see the gems used as weapons and affecting all forms of organic and inorganic things. I dont see how out of all the infinity gems only the Mind gen cant affect anything more than human being.
Especially since as I've said, it working on humans would in fact be proof that it can work on aliens, as the gems aren't of Earthly origin.
relentless may as well be arguing that Martian Manhunter using TP against a human isn't proof that he could TP a Vulcan
its got nothing to do with anybody being aline or human. Doomsday has shown incredible durability, more so than anybody in the MCU to date. He's also a mindless brute; how can you hope to control a mindless killing machine? and before you say Hulk was controlled, he's got Banners brain in there somewhere deep in Hulks psyche
Originally posted by relentless1
its got nothing to do with anybody being aline or human. Doomsday has shown incredible durability, more so than anybody in the MCU to date. He's also a mindless brute; how can you hope to control a mindless killing machine, and before you say Hulk was controlled, he's got a brain in there somewhere deep in Hulks psyche
Durability has nothing to do with TP resistance, now why not try and actually back up your claim.
Originally posted by relentless1The term 'mindless' kind of works against your favor. I'd argue that that would make him even more susceptible to mind control.
its got nothing to do with anybody being aline or human. Doomsday has shown incredible durability, more so than anybody in the MCU to date. He's also a mindless brute; how can you hope to control a mindless killing machine? and before you say Hulk was controlled, he's got Banners brain in there somewhere deep in Hulks psyche
Its like every time Hulk has been calmed down or redirected at a threat in the comics. Him being a 'mindless brute' makes him more susceptible to trickery or suggestion and thats before you even bring in mind control. Just words, used to control him. Now imagine an infinity gem.
We also haven't seen the extent of the gems power.
Humans fuqing around with the mind gem tapping into a small fraction of its power were able to : Make energy weapons, make super powered humans, Mind control people, create artificial intelligence via Ultron and then he created Vision with the gem as well.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
This is a much better argument. Even if thats the entire point of the mind gem. Hopefully one that is settled in the Civil War movie in a month. He didn't really get a chance to use mind control, since he was fighting robots.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
All we saw from DD besides being hit with knite was anything that touched him made him stronger. So a power gem will just power him up.
Or destroy him , if it, a universal level weapon were more powerful than him which it is most likely.
So basically, a no limits fallacy for every aspect of Doomsday while you lowball an infinity stone and claim it only works on humans because?
It never worked on Tony Stark because it was never used on him. It was used on reactor in his chest.
Humans are aliens as it is not from Earth.
The best argument is that Vision is either incapable or what will prob be shown in Civil War, completely unwilling to use certain aspects of the Mind Gem as otherwise he would just bring Cap in that way.
Regardless,team wins this due to vague power levels and infininty stones.
Someone made a comment earlier about people soloing though. Nobody is soloing Doomsday here people. They may have potential to but he is pretty beastly as farbas cinematic villians go. I will give DC this, Marvels abilitiy to make its Villians look threatening has been....shit.