Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Yes, by the weightlifting in DD S2. Kingpin was easily benching 400+ lbs.
Actually go back and watch the movie, Bruce was lifting 3-4 times that amount. He is literally almost superhuman with the weights he was moving around given his size and only being human. And I remember all the people here saying "kingpin is borederline superhuman" guess what, he just got bested in Aces.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Actually go back and watch the movie, Bruce was lifting 3-4 times that amount. He is literally almost superhuman with the weights he was moving around given his size and only being human. And I remember all the people here saying "kingpin is borederline superhuman" guess what, he just got bested in Aces.
nd he was tossing that weight around like they were feathers too.
Originally posted by relentless1
LOL easy killer, what is daredevil your dad or something?Anyways he may have walked out of his fights throughout the show a winner but he did get his ass beat several times in the process. he has such a hard time taking people down its like watching a jackie chan fight but worse. Look at the prolonged fight he has with the knife guy early in S1, it took him like 10 mins to finally take that one guy down. LOL he struggled with a plain goon when he almost got impaled on that fence spike too. Pathetic showings really, DD barley made it out of most of these fights alive. Nobu was beating his ass; even the retard who makes his armour almost killed him.
Point is he struggles with fights way more than Batman did.
So no actual clips of Daredevil getting his "ass handed to him". Just a few fights where an unarmed and unarmoured, and often injured, season 1 (who has been shown way less capable than in season 2) DD didn't instantly take out everyone? The only onscreen fight where he was in genuine serious trouble of "not making it out alive" was against Nobu. And even Healy was a trained assassin, who was shown taking out a mob boss and his muscle, despite his gun jamming on him before he could even get a shot off (so has better feats than anyone Bats beat in pure H2H). So going to have to try harder than that pathetic attempt at lowballing.
And how long would Bats have lasted without his suit and gadgets eh, considering it stopped multiple gunshots, knife slashes etc? I love how you make all these claims about Bats in his suit, with his gear and try to compare him to an unarmed, season 1 DD.
But then, I should hardly be surprised at your double standards, considering your history.
Second Episode Daredevil got beat bad. I dont remember him taking down people instantly unless he blindsided them
Compared to this, dropping people left and right while causing environmental damage from tossing them around like jakasses.
Not after season 2, but keep lowballing. And you conveniently didn't answer my question about how long Bats would have lasted in that warehouse without his armour and gear.
And yes, let's keep comparing an armoured and geared up Bats, to an unarmed, unarmoured season 1 DD. Because it's not like DD has shown notable improvement between seasons, or had a decent upgrade in gear and armour during that time.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Not after season 2, but keep lowballing. And you conveniently didn't answer my question about how long Bats would have lasted in that warehouse without his armour and gear.And yes, let's keep comparing an armoured and geared up Bats, to an unarmed, unarmoured season 1 DD. Because it's not like DD has shown notable improvement between seasons, or had a decent upgrade in gear and armour during that time.
Who did I lowball and how, I posted all of his fights.
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialBut thats not the point, he didn't have shit like that in the other movies, and Batman isn't supposed to be Iron Man, he's supposed to be a normal dude who beats the shit out of Meta Humans and Super Humans on a regular basis.
This stupid statement is like saying Stark would be dead without his armor and gear.idiot,
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Who did I lowball and how, I posted all of his fights.
I was addressing Relentless, and those are not all of his fights. It's only his season 1 fights, when Matt was not only skinnier, he was less experienced as a hero/vigilante, had no real armour and no real gear. In season 2 he has body armour that can soak up a lot of hits, a helmet that, according to Melvin, is nearly indestructible, reinforced allow gauntlets, and a nearly indestructible billy club with a cable in between, meaning he can use it for various things. And by the end of season 2 (once he had the whole dumb "open your senses" moment), Matt was consistently dropping even the Hand ninjas with 2 or 3 blows each, even when encountering them as a group. And the Hand guys all packed swords, bows and shurikens, so they weren't even coming at him in H2H.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I was addressing Relentless, and those are not all of his fights. It's only his season 1 fights, when Matt was not only skinnier, he was less experienced as a hero/vigilante, had no real armour and no real gear. In season 2 he has body armour that can soak up a lot of hits, a helmet that, according to Melvin, is nearly indestructible, reinforced allow gauntlets, and a nearly indestructible billy club with a cable in between, meaning he can use it for various things. And by the end of season 2, Matt was consistently dropping even the Hand ninjas with 2 or 3 blows each, even when encountering them as a group. And the Hand guys all packed swords, bows and shurikens, so they weren't even coming at him in H2H.
I think we can both agree Bruce is stronger and faster then Matt.
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialI was clearly talking about Batman when I said that.
Oh wait, Batman is supposed to fight without his armor now, are you stupid or just trolling now? Ironman has had armor since the very first movie. Quit lying.
If you wanna act retarded then be my guest, but at least get your references right when doing so.
What I meant was, in Batman's movies, he didn't have some cheap-ass bulletproof armor.
****er got shit in the back of the head with no damage.
He can fight Superman with armor, but Batman relies on his skills to get by most of the time, that was even true in the Nolan movies, the Burton movies. All of them.
If someone pulls out a gun, he usually either disarms them somehow, or gets shot.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The point was your original statement was retarded.
If you have Batfleck going into that building against those men in DD standard gear. he would most likely be dead.
If you put DD vs. Batfleck on even terms. Both in street clothes. Then the advantage is for Matt
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I think we can both agree Bruce is stronger and faster then Matt.
How is Batman faster? Also Matt has beaten people stronger than him before.