Homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973

http://lgbpsychology.org/html/facts_mental_health.html

Homosexuality was listed in the DSM as a mental illness until 1973. At this time several thousand psychologists with the backing of a strong gay movement attempted to have it dismissed as a mental illness.

What say you? Is it a mental illness or not?

I personally believe in some cases it may be an illness as it is more associated with narcissim, bi polar, and borderline personality(outlined in numerous sources) but i'm sure many cases are not.

Up until the 90's it was still listed in an illness in one form or another...so what changed?

I'm a straight guy and am seriously offended by this absurd law. One of my cousins is gay and this disgusting bigotry is offensive. Sounds like something Trump would support.

#Never Trump

what law? dsm is a medical book. i have a gay cousin and a gay uncle (RIP). this isn't a law. it's just a question on what people think

I don't think it's any more or less of a mental illness than any other sexual preference. Be it for people older or younger or of a different skin colour or body shape or whatever. I do think that it's possible that people with sexual preferences not of the mainstream are more likely to suffer from other mental illnesses brought on by internal conflictions because they live their lives knowing people may react negatively to them if they were to make known their differing sexual preferences. That's probably why it was classed as a mental illness

Originally posted by jaden101
I don't think it's any more or less of a mental illness than any other sexual preference. Be it for people older or younger or of a different skin colour or body shape or whatever. I do think that it's possible that people with sexual preferences not of the mainstream are more likely to suffer from other mental illnesses brought on by internal conflictions because they live their lives knowing people may react negatively to them if they were to make known their differing sexual preferences. That's probably why it was classed as a mental illness

Bingo. yeah i think maybe the stigmitism may cause other mental illnesses, especially BPD possibly or what may appear to be bi polarism.

Some 'mental illnesses' are just personality traits that go against the preconceived notion of 'normality' dictated by the society of that time. So it's not a surprise that homosexuality was treated as a sickness back then, when they were so... not accepted.

That's just my take on it, though.

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
I'm a straight guy and am seriously offended by this absurd law. One of my cousins is gay and this disgusting bigotry is offensive. Sounds like something Trump would support.

#Never Trump

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Some 'mental illnesses' are just personality traits that go against the preconceived notion of 'normality' dictated by the society of that time. So it's not a surprise that homosexuality was treated as a sickness back then, when they were so... not accepted.

That's just my take on it, though.

If most of them are preconceived notions of being against normality, then you are absolutely right that homosexuality was considered mental illness because it went against the norm.

My understanding of normality might differ to some people, but I personally feel that given the biological record of heterosexual activity reproducing all mammalian species on the ****ing planet (some of which have proven to be useful, horses for example) vs. the degeneracy of homosexuality, it's no contest as to which one is normal, or at the very least, rational.

There is a clear argument as to why homosexuality is an illness based on this evolutionary fact.

In that case, heterosexual oral, anal and really any sex acts that cannot lead to reproduction are acts of 'mental illness'

Also find it hilarious that you call homosexual acts 'degenerate', bit of the ole self-hate today, eh

Originally posted by Robtard
Also find it hilarious that you call homosexual acts 'degenerate', bit of the ole self-hate today, eh

Yes, Robtard they are degenerate acts. I'm glad you're taking note. Heterosexual oral and anal however, does maintain healthy relationships between a man and a woman given the acts are consensual. Homosexuality is very different however, which I will explain.

The fact that homosexuality doesn't reproduce offspring and is degenerate illness should not be a surprise to anyone. Homosexuals do not reproduce. Offspring does not occur due to homosexuality, that is what heterosexuality is for.

Unless you want to argue the case for sperm donations, surrogate mothers or any other scientific advancements that help homosexuals reproduce offspring, I'm all for it. If you just want to attack my character, then I don't understand why you come here.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
whyvdoes it sound like something trump would support?

this opens up the door of what we consider a "mental illness".

If most of them are preconceived notions of being against normality, then you are absolutely right that homosexuality was considered mental illness because it went against the norm.

My understanding of normality might differ to some people, but I personally feel that given the biological record of heterosexual activity reproducing all mammalian species on the ****ing planet (some of which have proven to be useful, horses for example) vs. the degeneracy of homosexuality, it's no contest as to which one is normal, or at the very least, rational.

There is a clear argument as to why homosexuality is an illness based on this evolutionary fact.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
That's a flawed reasoning to say the least, and makes you sound a bit homofobic. But just a little.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
Yes, Robtard they are degenerate acts. I'm glad you're taking note. Heterosexual oral and anal however, does maintain healthy relationships between a man and a woman given the acts are consensual. Homosexuality is very different however, which I will explain.

The fact that homosexuality doesn't reproduce offspring and is degenerate illness should not be a surprise to anyone. Homosexuals do not reproduce. Offspring does not occur due to homosexuality, that is what heterosexuality is for.

Unless you want to argue the case for sperm donations, surrogate mothers or any other scientific advancements that help homosexuals reproduce offspring, I'm all for it. If you just want to attack my character, then I don't understand why you come here.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why do you believe producing offspring is particularly important given that we're in no shortage of couples that are producing offspring?

Originally posted by It's xyz!
can you explain the flawed reasoning?

It's not like we're going extinct any time soon...

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why do you believe producing offspring is particularly important given that we're in no shortage of couples that are producing offspring?

I don't know how many couples are reproducing, but I'm glad we're reproducing as a species.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
given the fact that it's essential for our survival, I find it pretty important.

I don't know how many couples are reproducing, but I'm glad we're reproducing as a species.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
We, as humans, should be well past the point where our concept of what's normal is entirely based on how we reproduce. Leave that to the animals who don't know any better.

It's not like we're going extinct any time soon...

What I was getting at was reproduction is generally good for the survival of the species, and acts that don't reproduce are degenerate. This is from an objective biological perspective. I then focuses on illness, which we know to be something that inhibits survival. The logic is, heterosexuality creates reproduction and survival, homosexuality does not, and is therefore, illness.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why do you think homosexuals reproducing is essential to our survival?

Originally posted by It's xyz!

I don't know how many couples are reproducing, but I'm glad we're reproducing as a species.

Unless they're muslims doing it though aye?