Batfleck vs. Depowered Thor

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Batfleck vs. Depowered Thor

No armor. No gadgets. Pure h2h fight. Who wins?

Thor was a tough guy as a human, his durability beats Batmans but I think Bruce is a better fighter, going with Batman on this one.

Batman no question.

Thor cleared those SHIELD agents unarmed and unarmoured, unlike Bats in the warehouse scene. Batman's out-of-suit durability is an unknown quantity, so difficult to actually tell how well he'd take Thor's blows. In contrast, we know Thor is sturdy enough that getting hit by a van doesn't even KO him. Leaning towards Thor here right now, but it might change once we get a better idea of Bruce's natural durability level.

Thor might hold back sensing that Bruce is a hero and lose the fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor might hold back sensing that Bruce is a hero and lose the fight.

What about if Thor senses that Batfleck is a cold blooded murderer? per: BvS

Thor's anus gets perforated either way.

Originally posted by Inhuman
What about if Thor senses that Batfleck is a cold blooded murderer? per: BvS

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Probably high fives him, considering the sheer number of humans, aliens and other creatures Thor has undoubtedly killed during his long life. How many Frost Giants does he kill in his opening fight of Thor 1 alone, smashing them to bits? Also, he was smacking human soldiers with an enormous metal beam during the opening fight of AoU (nevermind all the ones he hit with Mjolnir), likely killing a large number of them.

But then, the Avengers have never pretended not to be killers when they need to. The initial team consisted of a super soldier and WW2 veteran, 2 assassins, a rich a**hole in super armour who showed no issues murdering people in IM1, an Asgardian War God and a raging green monster.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
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Probably high fives him, considering the sheer number of humans, aliens and other creatures Thor has undoubtedly killed during his long life. How many Frost Giants does he kill in his opening fight of Thor 1 alone, smashing them to bits? Also, he was smacking human soldiers with an enormous metal beam during the opening fight of AoU (nevermind all the ones he hit with Mjolnir), likely killing a large number of them.

But then, the Avengers have never pretended not to be killers when they need to. The initial team consisted of a super soldier and WW2 veteran, 2 assassins, a rich a**hole in super armour who showed no issues murdering people in IM1, an Asgardian War God and a raging green monster.

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Yeah none of the avengers have this no kill code like superman and batman. It's a big part of who they are. It's like taking away Ironmans armor. It's a big part of what makes him ironman.
The avengers try not to kill but they will if they have to.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Yeah none of the avengers have this no kill code like superman and batman. It's a big part of who they are. It's like taking away Ironman armor. It's a big part of what makes him ironman.
The avenger try not to kill but they will if they have to.

Yeah. I know of a lot of diehard comic Batman fans who flat out refused to see the film when they found out this version kills. And some of the Superman fans I know were also kind of "WTF?" when he just plowed that Warlord through multiple walls, instead of just knocking the gun out of his hand, or even just heat visioning it and leaving the guy unharmed. He was clearly shown to be fast enough that smashing the guy through walls was not his only option.

But they did leave themselves a backdoor to rectify it somewhat IMO. Just say that Bruce changed his ways in memory of Superman's supposed death to honour him or some such nonsense (similar plot was used in Arrow), taking on a less lethal approach to his crime fighting. Better than leaving him a killer IMO. Because as things stand, there is no rational reason why the Joker is still alive, if Bats is even willing to gun people down.

How would that work, seeing as Superman is also a killer.

Originally posted by Silent Master
How would that work, seeing as Superman is also a killer.

Eh, because Clark's a hypocrite (he was criticizing Batman's way of doing things, despite his own history) and Bruce wants to show himself to be morally superior? 😆

No idea really. But as things stand, they've alienated a big part of the comic Batman fanbase with that move. And like I said, in this timeline Bats and the Joker have presumably had multiple encounters with each other by now, so if Batman is willing to kill, why is the psychotic murderer who seemingly killed Robin still around?

Originally posted by Inhuman
What about if Thor senses that Batfleck is a cold blooded murderer? per: BvS

Batman is a hero, so Thor would hold back and get merked.

Like he held back against Iron Man and Captain America?

Originally posted by Psychotron
Like he held back against Iron Man and Captain America?

Isn't that the word here? He did hold back against Ironman, Cap, Hulk, Loki, and Ultron. It's natural for him to hold back since he's done it in 90% of his fights. Batman wrecks him.

Could go either way. We have no showings for an unarmored and unarmed batman. I suspect he would find depowered Thor a tough match.

Originally posted by carver9
Isn't that the word here? He did hold back against Ironman, Cap, Hulk, Loki, and Ultron. It's natural for him to hold back since he's done it in 90% of his fights. Batman wrecks him.

I really don't think he was holding back against Captain America. He pretty much tried to flatten him.

Originally posted by carver9
Isn't that the word here? He did hold back against Ironman, Cap, Hulk, Loki, and Ultron. It's natural for him to hold back since he's done it in 90% of his fights. Batman wrecks him.

He did not hold back against Cap, don't try this here, boy.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I really don't think he was holding back against Captain America. He pretty much tried to flatten him.

So the hit he gave against Cap is greater than the uppercut he hit Hulk with? Think real hard on that.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He did not hold back against Cap, don't try this here, boy.

Why didn't he hold back against Cap?