Originally posted by Sinious
Great, another Bane troll is exactly what this forum needed 😬
Interesting - you accuse me of being a troll because I come upon unpopular conclusions, and you absolve yourself of any such title because you just sit to the side and make mocking gestures.
Saying something unpopular = troll status, suspending need to actually point out flaws in the argumentation
Saying something popular behind literally no substance or pretense of wanting to debate = not a troll, but being the popular kid by rendering verdict via appeal to popularity
Wonderful! Your intellect truly knows no bounds.
Well insincerity is not very appealing in debating imo and when combined with boredom, it leads to trolling.
But if you stick around long enough and continue to argue against Sheev or Valky, I'll probably stop calling you a troll and destroy you. Until then;
Originally posted by Beniboybling
You are funny, I will enjoy your stay on these boards. Pls keep cancer to a minimum tho. 🙂
Originally posted by Sinious
Well insincerity is not very appealing in debating
Insincerity in the data and facts presented, obviously. Insincerity in what you "really" believe? That's what makes competitive debating possible, lol.
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Regardless, kidding aside, I think Luke at his best could take this. Everyone below Zannah is effectively irrelevant and can be oneshotted. For precedent take a look at Palpatine vs. Windu and the B-team; Sidious was able to take everyone else out without Windu being able to do anything because he was too busy avoiding getting killed himself. I'd imagine a similar thing happening here; the eight won't get in a position to tactically surround Luke if he charges at a particular concentration of them and takes them all out quickly, gradually dwindling their numbers.
Really, Carthage has a point here; Bane really isn't as impressive as people have propped him up to be. His two most impressive attributes are his prodigious learning curve and destroying the temple on Lehon. He otherwise is routinely tagged by mooks. Peak Luke could likely make him irrelevant in the same way Palpatine made pre-vaapad amped Windu irrelevant, but even worse.
As for the others, Zannah's trump card is her illusions, which would probably not affect Luke, given his resistance of UnuThul's TP, vast knowledge of the Force, and being probably the best illusionist in the mythos notwithstanding entities. Kas'im may be technically skilled, but he's too weak in the Force to keep up with Luke's speed (he's < PoD Bane). All the rest could and in some cases were crushed by PoD Bane's TK. Well, except for those random assassins that gave Bane trouble, which really doesn't do his case any favors.