Originally posted by Tondemonai
The Dread Masters together were inferior to SWTOR Vitiate, who was considerably weaker than Valkorion.
Revan was stated in SoR to stand no chance against Vitiate. Add in Arcann, who resisted his fathers power when not only weakened but channeling his power through an extremely inferior vessel.
Spirit Valkorion is weakened, yes, but I wouldn't put him so far down as to say he's back to his SWTOR level of power. Pre physical death is his strongest incarnation by far. Implying that his Ziost consumption didn't put him on a higher level than ever before, given that Ziost was a far stronger DS nexus than Nathema, is retarded.
Again, you have legit zero proof that he was stronger at the start of KotFE. That's your opinion based on nothing. The Force also isn't dead on Ziost, so what exactly is your point?
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Ziost is arguably evidence that Valkorion would be stronger than Vitiate. Or as some would say, feats are the evidence. And Valkorion probably felt no need after she unleashed her violent tendencies.
Valkorion gives the vibe of being the most powerful incarnation because he have accomplished his life-long objective: absolute immortality.
Valkorion asserts that he does not depends upon corporeal vessels to function and affect his surroundings anymore. Yes, we witnessed this fact on Ziost as well. However, Valkorion is demonstrating powers, even in strictly conventional terms, that we have not witnessed before.
The above being said, Valkorion is equal to his earlier Ziost based incarnation in raw power at minimum. However, Valkorion's power may also fluctuate depending upon the circumstances. Arcann noticed this.
But the story is progressing so we don't know for sure...
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It's not. Ziost was stated to have "revitalized him." As in it was him getting back to speed. Nothing more. And Valkorion sealed her power specifically to stop those violent tendencies.
Which at worst implies parity as opposed to inferiority. Not only that, but the fact that Valkorion was actually able to do shit as a spirit, (as opposed to Vitshit hiding for a year,) marks him as a superior individual tbh. And once those violent tendencies were unleashed upon his death at the hands of the hero, he probably felt it useless, maybe even impossible, to curb her tendencies anymore.
Vitiate wasn't hiding for a year, lel. The devs timeline for events is pretty short actually. 3-12, for instance, in KotFE is like a month. FA, SoR, and Ziost is a few months at best. And most of what he does as a spirit are things he's completely capable of during RotE. Like TK and Lightning.
That would imply his power weakening, not that I have an opinion either way. The point is, he's never once stated to be stronger.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
When as a spirit did RotE Vitiate display TK and force blast, Kek
As well you shouldn't. It'd put a chink in Valkorion's "> Sidious" armor.