Arcann, Vaylin, and HoT vs Yoda

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Satele Shan asserts that you are already the best the Jedi Order has to offer so far but you need to evolve.

Both Darth Marr and Satele Shan sense a profound change in the Outlander after Valkorion strengthens his bond with the Force.

Darth Marr asserts that Valkorion have opened the Outlander to depths of power he could never reach before.

Even in the game, we witness profound change in the experiences of the Outlander after his metamorphosis; he experiences powerful visions and is also able to affect the surroundings in superior ways (e.g. calming that blood-lusted gigantic creature).

Assuming that the Outlander is Hero of Tython (official promotion is Jedi Knight character), he was already powerful in the ways of the Force. After the metamorphosis, he has become something much greater but it will take time to realize this newfound potential.

It's a blatant falsehood and utter mistranslation of the text, Kek. 🙂

Originally posted by Sinious
And why phrase all this as Outlander > Any Jedi/Sith before him?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
It's a blatant falsehood and utter mistranslation of the text, Kek. 🙂

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Because LeGenD already placed him that high to begin with. While the words could be twisted to mean the HoT>Al before him, it really only necessarily means the HoT>All alive now.

Originally posted by Sinious
And why phrase all this as Outlander > Any Jedi/Sith before him?

The entire point of it is that [even] the Outlander (a veteran of the Great Galactic War and the greatest warrior of his respective Order) didn't had it in him to challenge most powerful members of the new Force-using Order such as Arcann and Vaylin. Many Jedi and Sith attempted the same but fell.

Even Satele Shan - one of the greatest Force-users and the Grand Jedi Master of her time - eventually realized that it will take more then a Jedi and/or Sith to tackle opponents like Arcann and Vaylin. She felt that something was lacking within the Jedi philosophy at the least; that the Jedi faced an enemy whose weaknesses they couldn't understand and therefore failed to exploit.

In short, the Jedi were prepared to challenge and defeat Sith but not Knights of Zakuul.

Most importantly, Valkorion felt the need to literally enhance the Force-sensitivity of the Outlander to enable him to tackle opponents like Arcann and Vaylin. He tested the Outlander and reminded him that he will perish during his struggles against Arcann and/or Vaylin if he doesn't evolves in both mindset and his understanding of the ways of the Force.

Marr and Satele are called Marr Imposter and Satele Imposter in this chapters coding. It's probably just more Valkorion, honestly.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Marr and Satele are called Marr Imposter and Satele Imposter in this chapters coding. It's probably just more Valkorion, honestly.

Except for they aren't labeled that in anything else. Coding language doesn't require that, lel.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
They are labelled as impersonators, not imposters. Also, its just coding language.

Yeah. And an unspoken rule of programming is to label your functions/objects based on what they do/are (respectively). If they're labeled as "impersonators" it's because they are.

Just because it's "just coding language" does not mean it doesn't have some basis in the reality of the game. I mean, it's almost as if language is the structure for the game itself...

Kek. 👆

Originally posted by Aurbere
Yeah. And an unspoken rule of programming is to label your functions/objects based on what they do/are (respectively). If they're labeled as "impersonators" it's because they are.

Just because it's "just coding language" does not mean it doesn't have some basis in the reality of the game. I mean, it's almost as if language is the structure for the game itself...

There is another revelation; if you attempt to kill Satele Shan, she teleports to somewhere safe and attempts to contact Theron Shan to inform him that you attacked her.

More manipulation? Look dude, it's great to say that beware is just trolling the fans and if you're right I'll congratulate you on your foresight and knowledge on the subject. But as of now it simply makes more sense that what's shown in the coding is the truth.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

There is another revelation; if you attempt to kill Satele Shan, she teleports to somewhere safe and attempts to contact Theron Shan to inform him that you attacked her.

LOL if this is Valky too he is legit on another level Freshest. I don't know how you can think he didn't grow in power after Ziost.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
BioWare programmers might be trolling the fans? Who knows? They are aware of the fact that their work is being leaked.

There is another revelation; if you attempt to kill Satele Shan, she teleports to somewhere safe and attempts to contact Theron Shan to inform him that you attacked her.

You do realize that, in order for that to be true, the entire development team would need to be in on it, right? Modelers, programmers, heck even testers would need to be in on the joke. That's a massive pool of people.

Not to mention that the entire program could go awry in this case. Programmers label functions and objects based on their purpose. If it was truly to 'troll the fans' then they would have labeled the objects as something else entirely, for the purpose of them knowing what they are used for.

Consider this: In the event that you are right, what if the writers go for imposters of these characters for real? We already have 'impersonator' in the code, so they would have to go with 'imposter' that time. Due to how similar the names are, one programmer can easily mistake the two, which leads to bugs. Yet another rule is to keep the names of your functions/objects different enough so that you can avoid mistakes like that.

And, trust me, that mistake can and does happen. A lot.

Originally posted by Sinious
LOL if this is Valky too he is legit on another level Freshest. I don't know how you can think he didn't grow in power after Ziost.

It'd just be top tier fugging savage of Valk to have been controlling them 🙂

Nah, Satele is old and useless now.

So Valkorion possessed Satele Shan at that time? What about Darth Marr?

No theories on Marr, but he sounds like Valkorion to me.