Best Telekinesis Feat in the Mythos?

Originally posted by ares834
The Dovin Basils have the ability to have the gravity from their singularities target specific things somehow. Like when they use them to rip the shields of fighters.

OK, but the ones Luke deals with don't seem to be planet movers. They can absorb ground-based weapons fire.

@ares I'd assumed the same thing Han did, I.E.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Didn't Luke move around the dovin basals in a ground skirmish? The basils weren't even sucking up the surrounding area, at most they were absorbing some sub-kiloton torpedos and laser cannons.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
OK, but the ones Luke deals with don't seem to be planet movers. They can absorb ground-based weapons fire.

They are singularities. If you want to quantify it, even very small ones are as massive as a planet.

Edit: Just to be clear, I don't like bringing real world physics into this. I merely look at it as an incredible feat and move on.

Originally posted by ares834
They are singularities. If you want to quantify it, even very small ones are as massive as a planet.

Edit: Just to be clear, I don't like bringing real world physics into this. I merely look at it as an incredible feat and move on.

❌ Where did you get the idea that all singularities are as massive as planets, lol?

Uh, where did I say that? Anyway, a singularity under a centimeter is as massive as Earth...

These are "micro-singularities" that can sit on a planet and not do anything to it. They're probably incredibly microscopic. But it's been a while since I've read the books, so maybe they're described as being far larger.

IIRC they can actually see the hole itself. Which would imply they aren't actually microscopic.

Originally posted by The Ellimist

Luke musing about ripping the hulls off of warships

src? Iirc Sidious said something similar.

As far as I can tell, these Dovin Basals resemble actual wormholes more than they resemble incredibly dense balls of mass.

He could reach out with the Force and damage the ships’ control surfaces, crippling them. He might even be able to wrench off whole hull plates or deform the weapons emplacements, tearing them apart with the Force alone. Or he could simply reach inside to the crews’ minds, turning them into helpless observers or even forcing them to surrender. For a Jedi Master with the Force as his ally, there were no limits. No limits at all.

- Specter of the Past

Originally posted by NewGuy01
As far as I can tell, these Dovin Basals resemble actual wormholes more than they resemble incredibly dense balls of mass.

They use gravity to pull objects in, compress stuff into virtually nothing, and are even called singularities...

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Is this why you haven't responded to me on CV?

Pretty much.

Originally posted by ares834
They use gravity to pull objects in, compress stuff into virtually nothing, and are even called singularities...

Yeah, but turbolasers aren't really lasers and lightsabers aren't made of light.

Originally posted by ares834
How? If we actually quantify it, they are moving around planetary level masses. Of course, I don't like using real world physics for this kinda stuff but if you do...

Those were Vong manifestations that would vanish after absorbing some firepower. They were not even close to the power and mass of the real ones.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You must be joking?

Those were Vong manifestations that would vanish after absorbing some firepower. They were not even close to the power and mass of the real ones.

Yeah, but they are able to suck in torpedos that can easily escape the gravity well of a planet. If they actually generate a gravitational field in the same proportion to their mass as real life objects, they would have to be planet sized at the minimum. But this doesn't make any sense in relation to how they can sit on planets and no do anything to them, be moved around by creatures, etc.

This is either the most impressive feat in the mythos, or nothing much at all. It's really tough to make sense of it.

Ranking them, ignoring feats vs. powerscaled individuals (because that would just make it lame):

1. Pushing the star destroyers out of the system
2. Luke and Kyp manipulating dovin basals (I've come to agree with ares on this one)
3. Luke allegedly being able to rip hulls off of battlecruisers.
4. Jadus holding together a dreadnaught, maybe.
5. Nihilus TK'ing the Ravager.
6. Yoda TK'ing droid landing ships.
7. Luke destroying Vader's fortress.

Tentatively.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Me: But... Just because one powerful dovan basil had moon level gravity doesn't mean the one Kyp manipulated did and aside from that is shifting around the mechanics of one of these dovan basils with the force really manipulating the entirety of the gravity it produces?

This doesn't really make any sense. If he's moving the singularity, which he does, then he's moving the whole thing...