100 Future Sentinels VS Doomsday

Started by Silent Master3 pages

Movie logic.

Unless the Sentinels can copy kryptonite, Doomsday wins. They don't have the power output to contend with him.

The Sentinels always had face blasts which they used to melt the door to Kitty and Bishop's room, a power which Sunspot did not have....

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Never thought DOFP movie Sentinels would gain an irrational fanboy....

I never thought DOFP Sentinels would gain a troll who enters threads concerning them with no useful argument to put forth...

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
The Sentinels always had face blasts which they used to melt the door to Kitty and Bishop's room, a power which Sunspot did not have....

Ok, you are dead wrong...

Why argue things you clearly dont know what you are talking about?

To set the record straight, the Sentinel didnt use face blasts to melt the wall; it duplicated Sunspots power to flame its hands/arms and then melted through the wall that way...

You are blantantly wrong about things you said pertaining to this topic on the comicbook versus forum...why repeat the same blatantly wrong info here?

@HulkisHulk

Nothing about my argument is irrational btw; its all 100% verifiable and all the data for my argument comes directly from the movie itself...

There is nothing irrational in that...

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Unless the Sentinels can copy kryptonite, Doomsday wins. They don't have the power output to contend with him.

They have access to all the powers of every mutant they slew; I think its a safe bet to assume that every mutant that we've seen in the Xmen/Marvel movies is fair game...

With that said, 100 Sentinels can come up with some exotic ways to defeat him that dont involve brute force...

Doesn't work that way, chief. They seemed to have to be in direct contact, or close by to a mutant to copy their powers. So they have no powers but their standard, which is face blasts and weaponizing limbs.

And none of the powers they copied bring them even close to slowing DoomZod down much less stopping him. And for the powers they do have, all he does is adapt if they even bother him.

Originally posted by KingD19
Doesn't work that way, chief. They seemed to have to be in direct contact, or close by to a mutant to copy their powers. So they have no powers but their standard, which is face blasts and weaponizing limbs.

And none of the powers they copied bring them even close to slowing DoomZod down much less stopping him. And for the powers they do have, all he does is adapt if they even bother him.

Then explain them utilizing Emma's and Lady Deathstrikes power...

Go ahead, I'm listening...

The claws were the same as the arm blades they created. Weaponizing their limbs. Unless you can show me how they got in contact with Deathstrike despite her being killed and left in a liquid Adamantium vat when the Sentinel's didn't even exist in that timeline?

And just because they got a diamond like substance, doesn't mean they used Emma's powers.

If you recall, not only do they evolve to gain the mutants powers, they can create direct countermeasures. They turned into crystal to nullify Sunspot's flames. They turned into fire to stop Iceman's ice.

If they had access to every mutant's powers at any given time, do you think they'd really just fly over and attack them at close range? Without using any powers until they came into contact with the mutants they were fighting? Why wouldn't they just spam lightning strikes since Storm was right there? Why didn't they just hurl all the metal on their ship at them like a wave of shrapnel since Magneto was right there? Why didn't they eyeblast them? Cyclops was a mutant.

Go ahead. I'm listening.

Originally posted by KingD19
The claws were the same as the arm blades they created.

Bull**** there is a clear difference between Lady Deathstrikes Claws and the arm blades they used; specifically note Sunspot and Blinks death:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQdhS6q50mQ

Unless you can show me how they got in contact with Deathstrike despite her being killed and left in a liquid Adamantium vat when the Sentinel's didn't even exist in that timeline?

Movie plot hole; those claws used to kill Sunspot are identical to Lady Deathstrikes...see above link.

And just because they got a diamond like substance, doesn't mean they used Emma's powers.

Bullcrap, that is exatly what Emma's Diamond Form looks like when she's in it; thats more than just coincidence...

If they had access to every mutant's powers at any given time, do you think they'd really just fly over and attack them at close range? Without using any powers until they came into contact with the mutants they were fighting? Why wouldn't they just spam lightning strikes since Storm was right there?

The mutants kept changing time using Blink/Bishop; They didnt actually come into direct contact with Storm until the very end of the movie when they killed her...from that point on Storms powers would have been an option, but they were already among them at that point, so there was no need.

Why didn't they just hurl all the metal on their ship at them like a wave of shrapnel since Magneto was right there? Why didn't they eyeblast them? Cyclops was a mutant.

See the previous answer; Mags never died to them as they changed time right before Mags and the rest of the mutants in the final room were blasted into oblivion...

Go ahead. I'm listening.

And I've answered....your move.

Edit: link fixed

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
The Sentinels always had face blasts which they used to melt the door to Kitty and Bishop's room, a power which Sunspot did not have....

And I actually just watched that opening sequence again...

I mistakingly thought the Sentinel flamed only its hands and arms, but it flamed its entire body...exactly how Sunspot does.

@KingD19

Compare Emma in Diamond Form to the Sentinel in Diamond Form and tell me with a straight face that they are not the exact same ability:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzYLX9QjD8c

I always thought they were turning into ice like Bobby, not diamond. That would be a perfect counter to sunspot. And for what it's worth, I bet each one was 4 or 5 times as strong as colossus when they went metal. They ripped him in half.

Originally posted by K-Dog
I always thought they were turning into ice like Bobby, not diamond. That would be a perfect counter to sunspot. And for what it's worth, I bet each one was 4 or 5 times as strong as colossus when they went metal. They ripped him in half.

Watch the clip from my initial reply to KingD19...

The 1st Sentinel that adapts to Sunspot uses Emma's Diamond Form...

The 2nd Sentinel that Sunspot attacks uses Ice Form...

Both forms look distinctly different...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
See the previous answer; Mags never died to them as they changed time right before Mags and the rest of the mutants in the final room were blasted into oblivion...

They didn't need Sunspot or Iceman to "die to them" before they used similar powers so why would they suddenly need to kill Magneto 1st before using his power? I understand that in your assessment they would need to see Magneto/Storm before using their powers but again they used fire/ice against a living SS/IM

Also since you didn't respond to my last post I'll assume you didn't see it so here it is:

Originally posted by juggerman
Now you're confusing what I said. I said they changed their exterior, I should've added that their interior would change to as Mystique is able to change height and weight and thus interior changes would have to be made as well, but I am not saying it was only cosmetic at all. And again it is upgraded from what Mystique can do

Can you point to one instance where the Sentinels used a power that was not "just" a change in their body? When they "used Sunspot's power" were they able to shoot flames like him? When they "used Iceman's power" were they able to spam ice? Never once was any change anything more than an alteration of their own bodies. Just like Mystique. Yes they are superior to Mystique but the concept is the same. "Can change body" is their ability plain and simple

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
hey look it Grimes, I wonder if you're tired after running from the other thread for so long. It's hilarious that you challenge me to post proof, when you ran away because you couldn't post proof to back up your claim. The irony is rich here.
I'm just following your logic that everything has to be spoon fed to us. So... you can't prove this either using your standards?