Mon-El Vs Captain Marvel

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Mon-El Vs Captain Marvel

No prep.
No BFR.
PRE-DCnu Captain Marvel.
Any version but Pre Crisis Mon-El.

Would be a good fight. Have these two interacted much in the comics?

Not that i'm aware of.

Edge to mon el. Im not impressed with billy at all

Fair enough. I've used the same rationale.

Really depends 'when' you want to make the comparison, i.e. which versions? I'd say that pre-DCNU they were pretty equal for a long time. But there were periods where Mon-El had a big edge. And maybe some where Cap had a small one.
These days, Cap definitely seems fully decoupled from Superman in terms of power levels. And I'm not sure there is a DCnU Mon-El.

Huh, was pretty sure there was a DCnu version.
And thanks for the synopsis, i thought he'd remained pretty steady power wise.

Originally posted by riv6672
Huh, was pretty sure there was a DCnu version.
And thanks for the synopsis, i thought he'd remained pretty steady power wise.

Nu billy is kinda weak sauce in comparison. He's not at classic levels he will be though in time for the movie

I'm no fan of DCnu CM, which is shy i rarely use him.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Edge to mon el. Im not impressed with billy at all

Yeah I'm going with Mon El.

Captain Marvel used to be a solid "B" lister but he's on his way to being a sorry "C" lister. It's criminal the way DC treated the Marvel family.

During the Post-Crisis period, there was a slow and inconsistent process of decoupling Cap from Superman. Historically, they were physical clones. That was almost written in stone. But Cap couldn't really develop or establish himself as a character that way. And so slowly he began to be differentiated.
By the DCnU, there is little talk of him being basically the 'other' Superman. They have highlited other powers like the lightning, etc.

With Mon-El, there was a time that Daxamites were explicitly more powerful than Kryptonians with Superman's good showings being more a case of his overperformance based on him just being a good fighter with serious will to win. But then the idea of Daxamite superiority was kind of thrown out and by the end it was even suggested that they might be slighlty watered-down Kryptonians. If there is a DCnU Mon-El, I don't know where Daxamites stand now. I think there was a Daxamite in a recent Superman comic and they are clearly meant to be Kryptonian analogues--but whether they are exact equals or superiors or inferiors I don't know. Maybe no one knows.

Originally posted by Pillow Biter
During the Post-Crisis period, there was a slow and inconsistent process of decoupling Cap from Superman. Historically, they were physical clones. That was almost written in stone. But Cap couldn't really develop or establish himself as a character that way. And so slowly he began to be differentiated.
By the DCnU, there is little talk of him being basically the 'other' Superman. They have highlited other powers like the lightning, etc.

With Mon-El, there was a time that Daxamites were explicitly more powerful than Kryptonians with Superman's good showings being more a case of his overperformance based on him just being a good fighter with serious will to win. But then the idea of Daxamite superiority was kind of thrown out and by the end it was even suggested that they might be slighlty watered-down Kryptonians. If there is a DCnU Mon-El, I don't know where Daxamites stand now. I think there was a Daxamite in a recent Superman comic and they are clearly meant to be Kryptonian analogues--but whether they are exact equals or superiors or inferiors I don't know. Maybe no one knows.

All this is true. Cap n Clark WERE rough equals till he started getting nerfed

So Pre DCnu CM doesnt match up with any Mon-El versions?

Sometime after the Eclipso fights, Daxamite superiority sort of went out the window, but the CM = SM equation was still pretty strong. During that time they'd match up pretty well.
Also, Thunder, a 31st Century Shazammer, was in the LSH for a while and seemed on par with Mon-El.

A female CM, right? Think i remember her if so.
Thanks for the examples.

yeah, Thunder was a female Cap.

The only time i remember Billy being explicitly Supes equal was Kingdom Come. It was also alluded that he was stronger. There rivalry has tapered off with Billy more and more being treated like a kid instead of a true powerhouse. U can even see it in other media like the new JL movies.

There are more times than that.
Supes has been awed by receiving the power of Shazam.
He's also been KOd by receiving the fist of Shazam.

Superman is always awed by some shit. In Kingdom Come Marvel was shown with respect. He had the power to not just best but kill superman and he was written up to achieve that.

Meh.
Your opinion, not going to try and change it.
Its wrong, though. 🙂