ANH: Kenobi would've survived his duel with Vader

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ANH: Kenobi would've survived his duel with Vader

Vader still tells Obi-Wan: "You powers are weak ... old man," but during their duel, Kenobi blocks Vader's sweeping lightsaber strike and ultimately traps Darth in a tunnel on the Death Star.

"But Ben manages to deflect the blow," can be seen on the script page.

As Kenobi runs to the Millennium Falcon, Luke later uses his father's lightsaber to help him after a blast knocks the old Jedi down. Luke and Kenobi get on board and the rest reads like the movie. Vader has his homing beacon on the Falcon and awaits to find out the coordinates of the Rebel base.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/original-star-wars-script-fate-obi-wan-kenobi/story?id=38423497

This is based off of a tweet by Peter Mayhew who played Chewbacca of an original script . Does that mean the battle can be seen as a stalemate? Thoughts?

I mean it didn't actually happen so I don't think it can be seen as canon. Legends has the Death Star novel describe the fight from the PoV of Vader, who observes that Obi Wan has weakened since RotS and is gradually losing the duel. With only canon sources we can only really see it as a stalemate, heck I think the ANH novel even describes Obi Wan as having the advantage.

Does this mean Obi Wan >= Vader > Sidious?

definitely Ben Kenobi > Darth Bane from the look of it

This is very early stuff. I mean, the original intention was that Ben was the best of the Jedi and that there were multiple Sith running around. I’ve also seen someone involved with the film give power rankings where Obi-Wan was a 5 and Vader a 4. Of course, most of this stuff was thrown out for the later films and even ANH.

The novel has Obi-Wan barely keeping up, and almost immediately fatigued, so no, this isn't canon, I'd think.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The novel has Obi-Wan barely keeping up, and almost immediately fatigued, so no, this isn't canon, I'd think.
Excerpt?

In all honesty, Ben no matter how skilled he was was facing an uphill battle on all fronts. He was much older and spent a good bit of time probably doing nothing while Vader has been chasing down Jedi in both legends and Canon, training Inquisitors, and practicing and developing his force powers.

Vader also had much better physicals in all aspects, and I think a quote by this time placed him as being more powerful than Ben and he would have eventually powered through.

So really I think no matter what he would have fallen since virtually everything was stacked against him.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Excerpt?

"Rather roughly, Vader imitated the movement. Several minutes followed
without motion as the two men remained staring at each other, as if waiting for some proper, as yet unspoken signal. Kenobi blinked once, shook his head, and tried to clear his eyes, which had
begun to water slightly. Sweat beaded up on his forehead, and his eyelids fluttered
again.
"You powers are weak," Vader noted emotionlessly. "Old man, you should
never have come back. It will make your end less peaceful than you might have
wished." "
"Once again he lunged forward, feinting, and then slashing in a deadly downward
arc with the saber. It stuck home, cutting the old man cleanly in half."

He's just a tired old man who cries a lot.

He tired quickly, but skilfully, he held his own rather well.