Originally posted by SunRazer
Nah, team 1. Assuming Luke fights Vitiate, Yoda cleans house with anyone (or any two) people he fights, and the rest of it goes in favor of team 1 just for the sake of number advantage (and Scourge being the weakest one here).
Lord Scourge isn't the weakest link here; he is an expert swordsman with shatterpoint abilities and heavy gear for protection.
I expect one of the Sith to achieve a breakthrough (presumably Darth Malgus) and then the tide would slowly shift in the favor of Team 1.
If the battle lasts long enough then there is also the possibility of Valkorion defeating Luke Skywalker and proceeding to turn the tide afterwards.
Lol
Luke blitzes and kills Vitiate in fifteen or so seconds. (too fast and powerful -> force a melee)
Yoda shitstomps the Dead Masters. (They're jokes in actual combat, are nothing next to Vitiate)
Kenobi loses to Jadus due to teleportation, but slowly. (Vader couldn't ragdoll him)
Mara Jade probably beats Malgus
Jains crushes Scourge
Kyp ragdolls the Wrath
Kyle probably beats Darth Revan (he's implied to be close enough to Luke in sabers for me to hover him between Anakin and Obi Wan)
Luke's team wins
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Luke blitzes and kills Vitiate in fifteen or so seconds. (too fast and powerful -> force a melee)
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Yoda shitstomps the Dead Masters. (They're jokes in actual combat, are nothing next to Vitiate)
Dread Masters were really powerful and dangerous. It took a coalition of Republic and Empire to stop them.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Mara Jade probably beats Malgus
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Jains crushes Scourge
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Kyp ragdolls the Wrath
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Kyle probably beats Darth Revan (he's implied to be close enough to Luke in sabers for me to hover him between Anakin and Obi Wan)
Darth Revan >>> Kyle Katarn
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Luke's team wins
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Much like Darth Ant, you're good at obsessively compiling random quotes and gifs, but horrible at actually using them for anything. Vitiate being able to deal with the likes of Arcann does not translate into his being able to handle Skywalker, and if you want to map that translation you have to actually do some sort of analysis beyond saying he's "extremely powerful" or whatever other cringe-worthy adjective dropping you're inevitably going to resort to.
Luke is [obviously] faster than Vitiate, who has no speed feats, and pre-Valkorion Vitiate has never demonstrated the ability to barrier-block lightsaber strikes. Luke tosses his lightsaber at Vitiate, forcing him to defend himself, while bumrushing him, catching his saber and then killing him at close quarters.
Yours are jokes, not them.Dread Masters were really powerful and dangerous. It took a coalition of Republic and Empire to stop them.
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"really powerful and dangerous" - oh my god, your English would make a neanderthal cringe. Can you say something more meaningful than that? Agen Kolar and Kit Fisto were also "really powerful and dangerous", and look how long that lasted them against Sidious.
Now to actually analyze their abilities rather than resorting to meaningless adjectives (I do wonder how many dozens of times I'm going to have to point this out before you finally get an inlking of your mental problem), the dread masters lose to strike teams whose shown and stated power levels pale in comparison to that of the B-team. Their primary strength, telepathy, certainly isn't going to work against Yoda in the 2 seconds they'll have before they get sliced and diced, given that they lack any meaningful feats in close quarters.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Interestingly enough, these are four of the more coherent replies I've seen you make. Mara Jade had Darth Caedus at her mercy, who outstrips Malgus in every meaningful category given his ability to challenge Luke and canonically superior strength in the Force to Darth Vader (admittedly the latter accolade comes a few months later). Kyp Durron is implied multiple times to rival Skywalker in raw power, an implication made more apparent by his dorvin basil manipulation and using freighters as telekinetic ramming weapons. Jaina has fought said Kyp to a standstill.
Darth Revan >>> Kyle Katarn
Darth Revan is the same Revan that was oneshotted and enslaved by pre-novel Vitiate. Kyle Katarn was regarded as a threat by Caedus. Katarn pimp slaps him.
You are wrong about almost everything here.
Of course you think that. You also think that "Dread Masters were really powerful and dangerous" as an argument for why they can stand up to Yoda doesn't make people cringe.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
you're good at obsessively compiling random quotes and gifs, but horrible at actually using them for anything. Vitiate being able to deal with the likes of Arcann does not translate into his being able to handle Skywalker, and if you want to map that translation you have to actually do some sort of analysis beyond saying he's "extremely powerful" or whatever other cringe-worthy adjective dropping you're inevitably going to resort to.
Dropped a bomb on em.