Originally posted by Syndicate
Given the events that occurred I believe Sidious did see Galen as a worthy successor. You obviously believe differently. Since all you have is a non canon version of events supporting your theory and all I have is circumstantial evidence they're both equally valid which is to say unconfirmed.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
A worthy successor in 20 years, maybe. The idea that because Galen has great potential that it means anything now is stupid.
It meant that Sidious saw that he could surpass him which btw is confirmed in the non canon DS ending your leaning on. Sidious probably felt that if killing him completed Galen's fall to the Dark Side it would be worth his death to have made the line stronger.
I'm not fully fluent in gibberish speak therefore I don't know if I'll properly be able to translate but... *Shrug* Here goes nothing.
U a da say ah dat da non cannon endin mean Galen no standie up to Sids boi. Bu he is say he coud bee suck ses or. E en if we be follow in da non cannon Sids boi likey wan ed to eh sac rim fice he bad self to make RoT line stronk.
Making any sense now?
Originally posted by Syndicate
U a da say ah dat da non cannon endin mean Galen no standie up to Sids boi. Bu he is say he coud bee suck ses or. E en if we be follow in da non cannon Sids boi likey wan ed to eh sac rim fice he bad self to make RoT line stronk.
I was referring to the saber lock they had at least in the game. Yea, just food for thought.
Didn't stop him from releasing all that energy to attempt to destroy Sidious did it. 😂
And now where does it say Yoda wasn't a match. He might not have had what it took to win the fight but it was more than a challenge. In fact it can be debated that Yoda is superior. While I don't agree I perfectly see a strong argument being made, while Galen was explicitly said and shown to have no chance.
Uhh yea and probably did much more.
I know Galen had some real difficulty manipulating it and it was described he collapsed from the exhaustion or something like that.
I say Yoda's is better due to him being able to do it without any noticeable strain and did in fact it seems easily, and that wasn't the only thing he manipulated.
Anyway food for thought make of that what you will.
Even if that were usable that doesn't have any bearing on their force abilities outside of augmentative ability.
He needed to lower his defenses to unleash that blast and allow the Rebel leaders and Juno to escape so...
Being a challenge doesn't mean your a match. The text states that Yoda wasn't capable of defeating Sidious thus he wasn't a match. Given the text clearly states he wasn't any argument made saying he was would be pretty pointless. Also given the scans and text for Galen's fight that wasn't shown to be the case other then in a non canon cutscene.
Evidence for your claim?
Oh? Can you name a better TK feat for Yoda? I was unaware he had one comparative in scale aside from pushing Sidious which as I've shown Galen has done as well.
Thanks for your thoughts Emperor. They were most enlightening. 🙂
Originally posted by Syndicate
Even if that were usable that doesn't have any bearing on their force abilities outside of augmentative ability.He needed to lower his defenses to unleash that blast and allow the Rebel leaders and Juno to escape so...
Being a challenge doesn't mean your a match. The text states that Yoda wasn't capable of defeating Sidious thus he wasn't a match. Given the text clearly states he wasn't any argument made saying he was would be pretty pointless. Also given the scans and text for Galen's fight that wasn't shown to be the case other then in a non canon cutscene.
Evidence for your claim?
Oh? Can you name a better TK feat for Yoda? I was unaware he had one comparative in scale aside from pushing Sidious which as I've shown Galen has done as well.
Thanks for your thoughts Emperor. They were most enlightening. 🙂
Yea, I get caught up in doing all out battles my B.
Wouldnt that sort of translate to him trying to put all his energy to that one attack?
Let me make myself more clear. Yoda was virtually the equal, I think is the better way to say. Galen was stated unequivocally to be no match for Sidious and Sidious was from what I recall toying around with him, while wi Yoda he took him as a serious immediate threat. I mean the whole thing is non canon so to cut off certain things seems a bit unfair.
The battle of coruscant to me showed a massive display of power for Yoda. He was able to knock out hundreds if not thousands of droids by himself, lifted hundreds of Droidekas with no strain, and manipulated entire aircrafts. Galen by contrast had trouble manipulating a star destroyer which I will concede is heavier than the droid ships I think it's a difference when you have someone who showed no strain from lifting a slightly less heavy object while before he had sent droids back to there transports, and those transports back to those ships , and then make the ships crash into one another. Now the question is do you think Yoda could manipulate the SD? Do you.
No problem.
All the energy he had at the time which would have been depleted. But yes, essentially. The thing about it though is that he would have been able to survive breaking it off if he hadn't lowered his defenses but he needed to to create a big enough blast to create a distraction for the Rogue Shadow to escape.
Yoda was stated to be unable to defeat Sidious. Galen was stated to be unable to defeat Sidious. I'm happy to hear your perspective but I disagree that Sidious was toying with him. Well NOW it is but when Legends/EU was canon that was the non canon version of events. I.E. in the chronological timeline of the EU Vader never died to be replaced by a Galen Marek now forced to occupy a suit that was keeping him alive.
There weren't thousands and he and Mace pushed the droids back together. Also Galen has just blasted back hundreds of droids and fought his way through an Imperial factory before accomplishing his feat as well as I mentioned earlier. I believe he could accomplish a similar feat to Galen, yes.
Originally posted by Syndicate
You view them the same way you viewed them in the past. Higher levels of canon when they were canon still supersede it.
That's not how they are viewed in the canon though. The former tiers of canon no longer exist there is only Legends and Canon. Legends is all n-canon and canon is well canon.
But either way as I said the DS ending is still a legit opinion of the developers of the game. Developers who had talks with GL himself on matters of lore.
Originally posted by Syndicate
No problem.All the energy he had at the time which would have been depleted. But yes, essentially. The thing about it though is that he would have been able to survive breaking it off if he hadn't lowered his defenses but he needed to to create a big enough blast to create a distraction for the Rogue Shadow to escape.
Yoda was stated to be unable to defeat Sidious. Galen was stated to be unable to defeat Sidious. I'm happy to hear your perspective but I disagree that Sidious was toying with him. Well NOW it is but when Legends/EU was canon that was the non canon version of events. I.E. in the chronological timeline of the EU Vader never died to be replaced by a Galen Marek now forced to occupy a suit that was keeping him alive.
There weren't thousands and he and Mace pushed the droids back together. Also Galen has just blasted back hundreds of droids and fought his way through an Imperial factory before accomplishing his feat as well as I mentioned earlier. I believe he could accomplish a similar feat to Galen, yes.
Just to point out on that last point I mean the time when he and Mace were sperated and force pushed/waved droids back.