Darth Bane and Tukatas

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Darth Bane and Tukatas

So after going for weeks hiking without any food or water and essentially using the dark side to sustain himself, Bane is attacked by twelve tukatas and easily destroys them. (this is all IIRC).

Meanwhile, I believe that AotC Anakin struggled with two of them, and in FotJ Luke, Ben and Vestara were surrounded by them (I forgot if it said how many) and Ben noted that there were too many and they were f*cked (Vestara saved them because she could speak their language or whatever).

Note that Bane's domination of the tukata not only comes when he's in a severely weakened state, but also way before his prime (he was still no match for Kas'im). Sure, he was also on Korriban, a dark side nexus, but I don't think that would offset the near-death state and huge gap in power from the end of book Bane (otherwise Vjun! Dooku would have been above Yoda). So extrapolate Bane >>> AotC Anakin to the end of PoD by which he's gotten drastically more powerful, and then another ten years to RoT, and then to DoE.

And we know in RoT that he's described as feeling more powerful than he's ever been (so > Lehon amp) and in DoE he gets a similar accolade.

These tukata are really helpful as benchmarks because they allow us to compare characters from vastly disparate eras via a common reference point.

Could this be the feat that puts Bane among the greatest in the mythos?

jk Bane loses every round

Carthage what do you think?

I don't think its really that impressive. Vader in one of the Dark horse comics slaughters two of them with his bare hands iirc, even Exar, Krayt, and Revan have annihilated them as well.

Call me when they can wield lightsabers/precog and fight an actual duel.

Didn't AotC Anakin struggle against two of them?

I don't have the passage where a bunch of tukata were about to kill Luke, Ben and Vestara.

Jedi Kun 'easily butchered' nearly 30. 👆

Originally posted by AncientPower
Jedi Kun 'easily butchered' nearly 30. 👆
Srsly? mmm

Indeed, he hadn't yet embraced the dark side either.

LOL Exar>Bane then.

Ya know, I inadvertently created this little argument when I mentioned it to dmbd. I apologize v.v

Jedi Exar vs. DoE Bane 🙂

Speaking of, I find it very humorous that a weakened spirit of Exar Kun can summon Dark Side Tendrils, whereas it took Darth Zannah tapping into Lake Nath, one of the greatest concentrations of dark side energy in the mythos, to replicate the same feat.

I find it more humorous that it was Kyp that did that, rather than Kun. 🙂

Kun summoned tendrils? Dafuq? In which book?

Eh, Kyp learnt the technique via Exar Kun, as well as everything else he does in the series. Also, Kun gets credited three times as much as Kyp does as the one being responsible. Given that Kyp's already display comparative feebleness to Kun when summoning the Suncrusher in the first place, which he did literally minutes before Luke turned up, yeh.. not really.

Here:

Luke dropped his useless lightsaber and crouched. His every muscle suddenly coiled and tensed. He rallied all the powers of the Force around him, seeking any defensive tactic. With the Sun Crusher looming behind him, Kyp stretched out both hands and blasted Luke with lightning bolts like black cracks in the Force. Dark tendrils rose up from the gaps in the temple flagstones, fanged, illusionary vipers that struck at him from all sides. Luke cried out and tried to strike back, but the shadows of Exar Kun joined the attack, adding more deadly force. The ancient Dark Lord of the Sith lashed out with waves of blackness, driving long icicles of frozen poison into Luke’s body.

He thrashed, but felt helpless. To lose control to anger and desperation would be as great a failure as if he did nothing at all. Luke called upon the powers that Yoda and Obi-Wan had taught him—but everything he did, every skillful technique, failed utterly. Against the full might of Kyp Durron and the forbidden weapons of the long-dead spirit of Exar Kun, even a Jedi Master such as Luke Skywalker could not prevail. The black serpent-like tentacles of evil force struck at him again and again, filling his body with a pain like lava coursing through his veins. As he screamed, his voice was swallowed by a hurricane from the dark side. Luke cried out one last time and crumpled backward to the blessedly cool flagstones of the Great Massassi Temple, as everything turned a smothering, final black around him…
- Jedi Academy Trilogy: Dark Apprentice

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Kun summoned tendrils? Dafuq? In which book?
^^

The text seems to attribute Kyp with the lightning and dark tendrils, while Kun is responsible for the "waves of blackness."

Which doesn't matter, because Kyp knows nothing but really basic Jedi training before Kun's possession, it is stated several times that Kun had taught him everything he knew. Just like Gantoris building a literally perfect lightsaber with basic training, 'cause Kun.

Sure, but he lacks Kyp's raw power, and those tendrils couldn't sever limbs like Zannah's could. 🙂

Hmm thanks for the quote AP.

From a certain view it looks like Force Lightning, actually.

But it does seem to coincide with whatt Zannah did to Bane. :mmm:

EDIT: @beni, tbf Zannah has the strongest Nexus at her disposal

Originally posted by Beniboybling
^^

The text seems to attribute Kyp with the lightning and dark tendrils, while Kun is responsible for the "waves of blackness."


And from whom Kyp Durron learned such powers? Obviously Exar Kun.

It can also be that Exar Kun was unleashing such powers, using Kyp Durron as a vessel, because he could not call upon all of his abilities as a spirit.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Sure, but he lacks Kyp's raw power, and those tendrils couldn't sever limbs like Zannah's could. 🙂

Yet it's pretty clear that Kun > Kyp in every manner regardless.