Originally posted by Tondemonai
Also note how he calls one of the units "nine-eight-three." We can easily deduce that by this statement there are at least 983 units in the EF. Imagine that scale. There's no way the GE can cope with those numbers, let alone the GEMINI coordination.
Lol serial codes never actually give the number of units unless if Valk is an idiot (well then maybe they do...)
I'm on my phone; the Galactic Empire has fleets of millions of cruisers and other ships, and it constructed the second Death Star in secret in like 6 months to half completion. The 900 km second DS has the volume of like 90 billion star destroyers or something. And this isn't including their stupid technological advantage, Galaxy guns, sun crushers, etc.
This was supposed to be a spite and it is.
Also one thing as I look at it, the EF lacks sorely in firepower, I count like...4(6?) turbolasers at most on each of the cruisers. They seem to rely on numbers, which is great....but they aren't fighting any fleets here that are lacking firepower, along with torpedo/missile tubes and Ion cannon weaponry and strong shielding, this just being a regular Imperial class 1 ISD.
The SSDs can tank 3 ISD Destroyers crashing into it and come out unharmed and just has a wall of firepower to unload.
The ZE starfighters we literally know nothing of, the GE has superior fighters in terms of versatility and better pilots as I see it(being the best in the galaxy, only 10% actually get flight commissions and above average reflexes of a normal pilot.)
Also the ZK having more Force Users in Command doesn't mean much, when they aren't nearly as tactful as Thrawn, Vader, Piett and Veers, Arcann has some experience....but nothing compared to the former 4.
The GE also has better and more versatile ground troopers and ground support. The ZE has Knights sure....but the GE has Army Troopers, Stormtroopers, Dark Troopers, Royal Guardsmen(and Shadow Troopers), Emperor Hands, Imperial Special Forces, ground support in the form of Walkers and Repulsorlift vehicles and airship support, tanks and the like.
Also what of their Intelligence Agency? As far as I know, the ZE literally has 0 for Intelligence, the GE has a pretty damn impressive Intelligence Agency which if they get their hands on ZE tech they could use said tech to their advantage in exploiting weaknesses.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Also one thing as I look at it, the EF lacks sorely in firepower, I count like...4(6?) turbolasers at most on each of the cruisers. They seem to rely on numbers, which is great....but they aren't fighting any fleets here that are lacking firepower, along with torpedo/missile tubes and Ion cannon weaponry and strong shielding, this just being a regular Imperial class 1 ISD.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9VHrjv0MSy8 28:30
The SSDs can tank 3 ISD Destroyers crashing into it and come out unharmed and just has a wall of firepower to unload.
Video can be related to this as well, though as I said in previous posts they are a major threat, however, not an instant trump card nor indestructible foe.
The ZE starfighters we literally know nothing of, the GE has superior fighters in terms of versatility and better pilots as I see it(being the best in the galaxy, only 10% actually get flight commissions and above average reflexes of a normal pilot.)
Also the ZK having more Force Users in Command doesn't mean much, when they aren't nearly as tactful as Thrawn, Vader, Piett and Veers, Arcann has some experience....but nothing compared to the former 4.
Granted
The GE also has better and more versatile ground troopers and ground support. The ZE has Knights sure....but the GE has Army Troopers, Stormtroopers, Dark Troopers, Royal Guardsmen(and Shadow Troopers), Emperor Hands, Imperial Special Forces, ground support in the form of Walkers and Repulsorlift vehicles and airship support, tanks and the like.
Zakuul has plenty of tanks, walkers, Skytroopers for days, the Exarch, the Star Fortress', shall I go on?
Also what of their Intelligence Agency? As far as I know, the ZE literally has 0 for Intelligence, the GE has a pretty damn impressive Intelligence Agency which if they get their hands on ZE tech they could use said tech to their advantage in exploiting weaknesses.
Granted, that is a large advantage. However, consider the roll the Scions could play in this regard. The precog they have is insane, and could be used in a way of anticipating attacks/pinpointing where bases/fleets are and what to strike at/what the layout is of the area. Valkorion used the Scions to locate the Eternal Fleet, who's to say they can't locate the exact placement of specific forces, super weapons, and commanders?
Edit: I don't disagree that the GE has superior vehicles and such, just that it's far from overshadowing Zakuul. The walkers the EE uses are not as advanced as the AT-AT, but are similar to the AT-ST in terms of versatility/ease of movement, and are far more heavily armed. The Knights would only really be threatened by the walkers (AT-AT's primarily, AT-ST's are less of a problem), the Inquisitors (if in individual fights, not in the badass af phalanx thing they do with the Force shields and Force Pikes), Shadow guard (same situation), and hands (similar case, but less so).
Tond, I'm not recalling any ZE walkers, just drop ships, their Knights, droids and Skytroopers, where were Walkers again?
The answer to the Scions, would be the Prophets of the Darkside, who could do similar. Adding in Palpatine also who has great ability in seeing the future and predicting outcomes, he regularly visited with the Prophets to see every single possibility of any outcome.