Originally posted by SunRazer
It's been so long since I've read any of Tolkien's works, but didn't Galadriel tear apart Dol Guldur? She probably wins in ranged combat, assuming she's fast enough to react.
It's not clear if she literally tears them down herself, or if Tolkien uses her as metonymy for her army. Even if she did, that's not as impressive as taking out AT-AT's or starfighters - with that kind of ability Vader could've easily teared down a stone fortress with some placed crushes.
She's not going to be fast enough to react; precognition and the instantaneous nature of TK mean that she's going to get her neck crushed long before she can do anything.
Galadriel was trained in magic by the Maiar Melian who was so powerful she could keep the influence of Morgoth out of her lands with her mere presence. Galadriel is also one of the first Noldar ( I believe second or third generation ) and of the bloodline of Feanor the craftsman of the Silmarils. She was also in possession of one of the three elvish rings of power. Given she tore down Dol Guldur and banished a weakened Sauron I'm inclined to side with her in this fight.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Right, and Dol Guldur was heavily reinforced by Sauron's dark magic, IIRC. It's basically a much more impressive version of Vader's cathedral-collapsing feat.
Sauron's dark magic doesn't really stand to SW materials science in demonstrated feats. And TFU grants Vader by either direct showings or powerscaling feats more impressive than that.
In either case, Galadriel's powers are irrelevant; she gets her neck snapped pretty quickly.
Originally posted by Syndicate
Galadriel was trained in magic by the Maiar Melian who was so powerful she could keep the influence of Morgoth out of her lands with her mere presence. Galadriel is also one of the first Noldar ( I believe second or third generation ) and of the bloodline of Feanor the craftsman of the Silmarils. She was also in possession of one of the three elvish rings of power. Given she tore down Dol Guldur and banished a weakened Sauron I'm inclined to side with her in this fight.
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Originally posted by Syndicate
Evidence for it being 40 meters?
Said freighter had one deck that was 40 meters long so the ship was probably over 40 meters long.
"Vader was forty meters from her. He stood up straight, towering over the crew near him. He was looking right at her, his lightsaber held at his side, and she could feel the weight of his regard pressing against her like a punch. He exploded into motion, moving toward her at preternatural speed, his strides devouring the deck space between them. Crew scrambled out of the way at his approach, his dark form knifing through them."
The mightiest Elves were killed by physical blows like long falls. Gandalf the Grey is above Galadriel and he was terrified of talking wolves. 2nd age Sauron fled from an army of men and elves. Galadriel is not Superman, crush her neck and she dies, and she isn't getting the first strike in against a precog.
Tolkien fluff <<< actual feats
Fingolfin was defeated by blows from Morgoth, essentially the Devil of the Tolkienverse. Feanor and Glorfindel were smote by Gothmog the Lord of the Balrogs ( Balrogs being a race of fire maiar and of the Ainu ) and Finrod was beaten by Sauron in a magical duel. And none of these beings were even devoted magic users aside from Finrod.
Gandalf the Grey ( restricted as he is on Middle Earth ) is not above Galadriel as evidenced by their respective performances at Dol Guldur.
Are you referring to the Numenoreans who were blessed by the Valar and were far more advanced and powerful then all of Middle Earth combined in their time?
Galadriel is one of the most powerful magic users in an ancient race of immortal superhumans who was taught by a being that could hold off the power of Morgoth and was given one of the most powerful rings of power in existence.
Don't want to begin underrating the Tolkienverse mate.