Spectre vs Living Tribunal

Started by cdtm11 pages

Spectre: I want to act, but I can't because *reasons*.

LT: I won't act, unless it would be a dick move if I did.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Have the space ants been shown to be weaker? Or have the writers written that it was all a fevered space dream after Odin ate too many burritos?

Odin has been shown to be far more powerful. Odin, along with Asgard, charge and fight like bricks with swords. Odin is chained to a pole with nothing preventing him from using his odinpower. It's a 60s comic that contradicts everything shown today, yet is repeatedly referenced by DC fans, most notably Abhilegend.

So the notion of counting only the latest is a notion overwhelmingly not followed. People follow what is most prominent and most relevant. Starlin does not retcon LT. He simply functions under his own perception of continuity that is outside of mainstream and generally is unaware of what is currently going on.

Originally posted by "Id"
Im playing devils advocate. But no I disagree. His ability to fight someone is tied in by who he judges.

Regardless of his power level atm, he actually fought GEB & AM.

Anyhow the real answer is plot device. In "Darkest Night" It was necessary to keep the plot moving forward, since the goal of story was for the Lanterns to overcome adversity not the Spectre.

After all Win or Lose Spectre has raised his fist against against those who are universal constants lacking a soul.

The problem here is when do we stop relaying on PIS. Ahbi and some members want to relay on Starlins portrayal of the LT that is one for every universe, which is fit to bring closure to his story...his plot. In reality LT has been established to be Multiversal consistently for the past what 20 30 years?

One interpretation of one writer is not going to undo 30 years of work, in fact we would have to wait to see if Starlins plot actually sticks. And if this is Multiversal Spectre, or Spectre at his best. Then the same would apply to the LT, or else the topic would be deem stomp, due to unfair match making.

I could also look at it in this way.

Multiversal LT beats Multiversal Spectre.
Universal LT beats Universal Spectre.

As either one simply walks with more power and authority than the other.

/rant end


The same reason LT couldn't beat Korvac. Or got repelled by Reed in Last Planet Standing. If we are going by low showings that is.

LT has only hype.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Odin has been shown to be far more powerful. Odin, along with Asgard, charge and fight like bricks with swords. Odin is chained to a pole with nothing preventing him from using his odinpower. It's a 60s comic that contradicts everything shown today, yet is repeatedly referenced by DC fans, most notably Abhilegend.

So the notion of counting only the latest is a notion overwhelmingly not followed. People follow what is most prominent and most relevant. Starlin does not retcon LT. He simply functions under his own perception of continuity that is outside of mainstream and generally is unaware of what is currently going on.


Considering it's Starlin who has written most of LT's portrayals and he was the one writer who pushed him as the top authority on abstracts, I find that too much funny.

LT is what it is due to writing from Starlin. He was a joke before that.

No, Kaminski put him as the top dog before Starlin did. Actually i think it was Gruenwald in that what if issue even, iirc.

Also, zop, Spectre's power is entirely dependent on its host.

In Fantastic Four annual 23? That was merely lip service.

Nearly all of LT's feats come from Starlin.

Originally posted by abhilegend

The same reason LT couldn't beat Korvac.


facepalm
Originally posted by abhilegend

Or got repelled by Reed in Last Planet Standing.


"All Ages" books work for you when it's convenient.

Damn, so predictable.

Until the retcon from Starlin, there was only one LT in multiverse.

But if you want, change all that to LT getting his ass handed to him by Nebulos who got killed by an Avalanche.

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
In Fantastic Four annual 23? That was merely lip service.

Nearly all of LT's feats come from Starlin.

We weren't talking about his feats, rather his status. You said that Starlin put LT as the top dog of abstracts. He didn't.

Originally posted by abhilegend
In Fantastic Four annual 23? That was merely lip service.

Nearly all of LT's feats come from Starlin.

Gallagher, Gruenwald and Englehart would dispute that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Until the retcon from Starlin, there was only one LT in multiverse.

But if you want, change all that to LT getting his ass handed to him by Nebulos who got killed by an Avalanche.

😂

Right!

😆

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Gallagher, Gruenwald and Englehart would dispute that.

What feats does LT has under those writers? Starbrand was a rival to LT under Gruenwald.

😂

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Right!

😆

Seriously?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What feats does LT has under those writers? Starbrand was a rival to LT under Gruenwald.

😂

That's untrue.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's untrue.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Seriously?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not at all.

The Starbrand has no feats for anyone to make that assertion and on top of that whilst it was presented that LT was unsure of how his power compared to that of the IG and he avoided a confrontation with its unleashed power:

LT didnt hesitate to mark out the Starbrand not only as being potentially on par with the abstracts but most definitely below him:

After losing a contest against LT, rather than submit her power to him Erishkigal killed herself, realising her power couldnt stand up to LT's.

A post from Galactic Storm?

😂

Have you even read the story?

Originally posted by abhilegend
A post from Galactic Storm?

😂

Have you even read the story?

Yep.

Split.

Originally posted by abhilegend
A post from Galactic Storm?

😂

Have you even read the story?

Sounds like a concession.