Revan isn't more powerful, he never was and never will be, Meetra claiming that the Revanchist had a greater command of the Force than anybody she'd met, is fine when we stick to the idea of a command of the Force, conventional power. It doesn't make any sense to include Darth Nihilus among that list when the Exile herself believes Nihilus' power to be impossible and that he was infact far more powerful than she originally had been led to believe.
She can't think Jedi Revan is more powerful than Darth Nihilus if Darth Nihilus' prowess was unfathomable to her when described by Visas Marr and when she confronts him properly realises he was far more powerful than even that.
Besides Meetra's fangirlism, one need only compare their feats to realise Revan isn't even in his ballpark.
Revan with a Malachor V amp could corrupt the minds of a fleet, Nihilus with that same amp could telekinetically rip a fleet from the gravity well and without that amp sustain said fleet with his powers.
Revan with a Yavin IV amp and a machine purpose built to absorb the life of a planet, could cause enough death to fuel said machine. Darth Nihilus utterly ravaged the surface of multiple worlds and consumed all life from them.
Revan was never greater than Nihilus, if we're taking Avellone seriously, they intended for Nihilus' mask to be Revan's skull but they were blocked by LucasArts. The obvious intention being that Nihilus can kill Revan and cut his skull out of his face. What could have been....
Originally posted by AncientPower
Those are merely some of the quotes I have found, but Surik never had that kind of connection to the Cosmic Force not even close, did she have a very strong connection to the Light Side of the Force? yes but Nomi was actively so connected that she is stated to be the ONLY thing stopping the Dark Side from becoming the dominant power.I would also bring to your attention that the Sith Triumvirate was not very big at all, however the Brotherhood of the Sith that Exar Kun left:
"Dozens of groups began to embrace the Dark Side, remnants of Kun's Sith Brotherhood spawned yet more Sith groups it was not until the Mandalorian Wars broke out that the Sith were put to the side to deal with the much larger threat to the galaxy, once Darth Revan assumed the mantle of Dark Lord, all the remnants of the Brotherhood flocked to the Dark Lord's side and the teachings of sorcery and alchemy became common amongst his Sith Empire, many of the leaders of these groups became Sith Masters, instructing the Dark Jedi in the true Sith arts."
More important is the simple fact that Sunrider unlike Surik is *confirmed* to be a powerful master of Battle Meditation and can even use the technique to block Sith illusions and mind control techniques she is also stated:
"The art of Battle Meditation never came so naturally to a Jedi as it did to Nomi Sunrider, just as many techniques did, in her presence Jedi would fight in cohesion without the need for words, becoming a small army in of themselves perfectly complementing one another."
That sounds suspiciously like Battle Meld to me and then there is this:
"Once she had attained the rank of Grand Master, Sunrider understood the ebb and flow of the galaxy, did not question it's events and began to simply accept the role of a Jedi, to maintain the peace and finally let go of her daughter, she knew that no attachments could remain if she was to do her duty, to fulfill the role the Force had designed her to be in, to reconstruct the Order and instate the code that Odan-Urr had written so long ago.
She knew why her husband died, she knew why she had a change of heart, she knew what life her daughter would live and accepted that life and death were merely larger tests in a grander design, she had let go of everything and welcomed her physical death the day it had come, though darkness would fall she had seen what lay past it."
That is an exceptional understanding of the Cosmic Force.
Then we have Tutaminis on a scale only shown by Luke Skywalker:
"As she charged across the plains of Onderon, a laser from one of the fortresses many heavy turbolaser defenses approached her and her Jedi companions, time slowed around her and almost accepting her death she dropped her blade and stretched out her arms, as time returned to her she saw nothing, her Jedi companions in awe, then she felt energy crackling through her veins, she had absorbed the energy but her body felt like it would implode, her arms ached, her legs buckled, muscles tightening, her chest ached and her skin was smoking, as if she had somehow understood what she had done, she channelled all the energy into her palms and sent out a thundering energy wave completely annihilating one of the Naddists' siege barges.
With this she collapsed, feeling so numbed by the pain that she felt nearly paralysed, she began sweating profusely, beads rolled down her chest, dripped off her forehead and showered her back, but somehow this display had awoken in her an understanding a comprehension of the power inside her, she knew the pain did not really exist, it was all in her mind, so she shut it out grasped the hilt of her blade with the Force and caught up with her contemporaries."
Oh and as far as Sion goes, Surik had a significant advantage, he loved her and he was conflicted greatly, Surik had to use Dun Moch to convince him to let go of the Dark Side and then he died.
There is no difference here besides the fact that Darth Sion was in love with Meetra Surik, otherwise she would have eventually tired out and died, something Sunrider did not do in three days of fighting him and his Dark Jedi lackeys.
This to me is by far the most impressive thing she has done:
"Tatooine drew her attention as she felt a dark presence on the planet, it was not powerful but was nonetheless there. Eventually she found her way to a cave where this presence was, she found no living beings only an astrogation chart, at first she wondered what this incomplete map led to but something told her this was not a journey she was meant to take, she had intruded however, intruded on a Krayt Dragon's lair, the creature was clearly drawn to the power here and by the skeletons and decomposing remains of other beasts that lay here, so were many others.
But putting her attention back to the living one, she found herself cornered in the outcropping the Dragon let out a deafening roar a clear sign of attack, as it came lumbering in to devour her, she gripped the beast with the Force, lifting it and then slamming it into the wall, not wishing to kill the injured beast the Grand Master leaped out of the cave to it's opening, at first she considered to heal the beast of it's broken leg but realised slightly too late that it's tail was following her, she felt her ribs, arm and hip crack as it whipped her right side.
Clearly believing it's prey to be dead, it lumbered over to her, it's tongue ready to envelop her, at this moment she stretched her right arm out and removed the beast from the ground beneath, she threw the gargantuan beast into it's cave, sensing the presence of many others closing in, she departed the area rather than cause more harm to the inhabitants of the world.
No Sith or Dark Acolytes were here and so this planet had nothing for her."
Very impressive displays of telekinesis.
Having read more about Sunrider I am getting the feeling she is the most powerful Jedi of the entire era.
"As the Grand Master of the order she would spend her days not deliberating in chambers or meditating on the power of theForce but instead hunting down the remains of the Sith, the cults and brptherhoods that formed after Kun's imprisonment, she knew that left unchecked yet another Dark Lord would rise in their place.
Eventually towards the end of her life after decades of no contact to the order, she returned to only her daughter Vima and warned her of a dark wheel turning, a vast blackness hiding behind the ruins of the Old Sith Empire, she felt in her gut that many wars would follow and so she created the council and the three paths and much more, hoping that an organised Jedi Order could survive the chaos to come." - Tales of the Jedi companion
"Darkly he proclaimed 'I am Sion, Lord of Pain and Lord of the Sith and you cannot kill me.' instead of exchanging words with the abomination before her, she simply attempted to cut the beast off from the Force but she realised this monster had become the Dark Side and such techniques would not work. Ziost was their battleground, time and again she would cut him down and once more he would rise anew. Aided by his minions the fight lasted three nights, despite the freezing temperatures and the well of darkness swirling through the collapsing fortresses, she would cut down more and more Dark Jedi until finally when Sion realised this engagement was one he could not win, he fled and no matter how much she chased him he would not be found again." - Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide Collector's Edition
"Sunrider became a legendary name among the Order, her connection to the Cosmic Force was vast and wide, she would often speak of how she felt the stars burning in her mind, how she felt the trillions in her heart but one planet in all the skies haunted her till her last breath, a planet under a massive burning and raging sun, one man above all concerned her most, her only true equal amongst the Sith Lords, Exar Kun." - Tionne
"Among all the Jedi it would be Grand Master Sunrider whom left her mark on the galaxy, she was a beacon of light holding back the Darkness, a vast darkness to consume the galaxy, when finally she passed away, the light went out clouded in darkness, the galaxy had changed." - KotOR CG
Originally posted by AncientPower
Do you just like to call people out at random or what oh and unless you have forgotten, their are two editions of TotJ one from 1996 and one from 2004 meant as a supplement to the KotOR CG, it was not its own book and infact is detailed under "adventures of Nomi Sunrider" oh by the way that KotOR CG has FOUR editions; the standard which is easy to find, the deluxe hardback, the Limited gloss print with foreward from Chris Avellone and the Limited Collector's Edition which has over a hundred extra pages dedicated to setting, it was only released in Canada and the U.K because thry failed to realease the Limited Edition in anywhere but the U.S.A.