Super Saiyan God Goku vs Valkorion and DE Sidious

Actually, why tf is this even a discussion? Goku learned from that mistake not to let his guard down IIRC, which was a plot point Whis discussed earlier in the episodes/movie and was shown through him getting shot by the laser and then getting a 2nd chance through Whis's time ****ery.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Uh, no. Even when powered down, he'd be far physically stronger than these two, and likely more powerful than anything they can dish out. It's not like Goku goes to being a normal person. Comparing these two to laser beams is retarded.

He may be physically strong, but he's weak enough to get shot by a ray gun that doesn't seem to be that powerful. Given that Wankatine is more than capable of ripping durasteel, Goku's base flesh shouldn't be a problem.

@Skillz: I mean, it's not like he's keeping his guard up 100% of the time.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
He may be physically strong, but he's weak enough to get shot by a ray gun that doesn't seem to be that powerful. Given that Wankatine is more than capable of ripping durasteel, Goku's base flesh shouldn't be a problem.

Well I mean of course he can't keep his guard up 100% of the time, but it should be enough that he could at least react to their spiritual machinations.

Goku might have to sleep eventually. They'll get him then.

^ yeah.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Because based Base Goku can't rip apart durasteel when Vader can? Goku's stronger than the plebs here even in base form. Accept it.

Goku uses ki to augment his strength, lol. And it's a matter of durability, not muscles - does that raygun seem more powerful to you than a Force storm?

Why the **** would Goku not notice a wormhole?

Lol it's not like it slowly appears above your head or something.

Or just telekinetically crush his heart, whatever.

It appeared slowly enough for Luke, Leia, and a fetus to put up Wall of Light, so I think Goku would notice.

Yeah, until I see either of these people crush the heart of anyone, let alone someone as powerful as Goku, that's just a bunch of nonsense.

An hero quality thread. It's possible for either Force user to overwhelm Goku via TP, however, if we're counting movie feats for Goku, then IIRC he was one of the only people not mentally dominated, and that was literally decades before his prime, but that doesn't really stack up to something I can see saving him from TP, but then again I doubt that Goku will even give them a chance to land any blows or even consider using TP before they're dead. Even if both of them combined their full power, or even had a month of prep to meditate and draw on their greatest powers, they'd do literally jack shit to him. This thread literally makes me want to dig my own tongue out of my body and keep pulling it out until the whole thing is on the ground and then hang myself with it. Seriously, wtf was going through your mind when you even considered making it, let alone put it into action?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
If we're going to take Goku = universe buster claims seriously, it's fair that we take the canonically Sidious = universe buster seriously too.

It's not claims, the universe would literally have been destroyed had Beerus not negated the energy/repercussions of their clashes. Implying that it was a mere claim when it in fact was in the process of happening before being negated is nothing but a pure dimwitted concept.

Sidious/Valkorion die, Goku thinks they're gone, then suddenly BAM a clone of Sidious kills him. GG

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Force Wormhole would barely scratch Goku. Implying that anything from the Star Wars universe could badly wound, let alone kill him, is hilarious. Beerus hit him many times with energy attacks that were stated to have the power to destroy the Earth, implying that he has the physical durability to survive not only an impact but a detonation strong enough to destroy a planet multiple times over and walk away merely bruised.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Force Wormhole would barely scratch Goku. Implying that anything from the Star Wars universe could badly wound, let alone kill him, is hilarious. Beerus hit him many times with energy attacks that were stated to have the power to destroy the Earth, implying that he has the physical durability to survive not only an impact but a detonation strong enough to destroy a planet multiple times over and walk away merely bruised.

Both Palpatine and Vitiate are masters of Force Drain; Vitiate even more-so.

Therefore, one of them can preoccupy Goku and the other can siphon his energy consistently to weaken him.

Look at the example of Luke Skywalker and Darth Krayt versus Abeloth

How would either distract someone who can rip apart the universe with mere punches? Will they make a wish?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
How would either distract someone who can rip apart the universe with mere punches? Will they make a wish?

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Wut? Goku can move faster than light and shatter the universe with a punch.

Absolute spite. He solos the SW galaxy with ease.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
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Why make a thread like this when you know that it is a mismatch?

Mindraping Goku shouldn't be difficult tbh.

Vegeta resisted Babidi, I'm not sure why Goku couldn't.

Originally posted by Tondemonai

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Force Wormhole would barely scratch Goku. Implying that anything from the Star Wars universe could badly wound, let alone kill him, is hilarious. Beerus hit him many times with energy attacks that were stated to have the power to destroy the Earth, implying that he has the physical durability to survive not only an impact but a detonation strong enough to destroy a planet multiple times over and walk away merely bruised.

😬 Read my whole post, dude. I said that a Force storm would kill Goku after he lowers his ki, just like a raygun basically did.