Alternative WWII outcome

Imagine the WWII ended differently. Hitler never invaded Russia and his initial deal with Stalin lasts through the war.

They both emerge victorious with Stalin rulling the Eastern Europe (like in "proper" history) and Hitler eventually overcoming the Western Allies. (with Stalin's help).

In short, the world is divided into two spheres of influence:

1. Hitler's National Socialism

2. Stalin's Communist Socialism

Under which system would you prefer to live? (you can choose to be either a part of that system or a rebel that figths it from within).

Expalin your reasoning.

I'd be part of the National Socialist system.
Why?
I consider Hitler a mad genius, Stalin not as much. Plus, this seems a "Mirror Mirror" type scenario so, i'd likely be evil, and say what you want, the Nazis had some sharp looking uniforms.

I don't understand.

Hitler hated Jews. Communist Russia was Jewish propaganda. You never hear that second part.

Anyway, if hitler was smart enough to negotiate peace with the Russians with a competent British prime minister who didn't **** every thing up, hitter would have easily gotten west Prussia and Posen with Stalin getting the rest of Poland.

Stalin would have probably ventured further south in Hungary, Romania and Yugoslavia. Hitler would have probably made ties with the Nordic countries or Mussolini. Mussolini would have probably made ties with Yugoslavia too.

In this mode, another world war would have happened, but it wouldn't be hitler. Too much tension at the time and Jews couldn't control Europe. War was going to happe.

Something similar was going to happen in "Mirror Mirror".

Originally posted by It's xyz!

In this mode, another world war would have happened, but it wouldn't be hitler. Too much tension at the time and Jews couldn't control Europe. War was going to happe.

However, let's just imagine Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact lasts longer than a few years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

Let's assume the time period we are taling about is post-WWII but pre-WWIII (a war that in this alternate world would happen either way).

Originally posted by Stigma
I agree that aconflict between Nazis and Commies was inevitable at that point.

However, let's just imagine Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact lasts longer than a few years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

Let's assume the time period we are taling about is post-WWII but pre-WWIII (a war that in this alternate world would happen either way).

Originally posted by It's xyz!
I don't understand.

Hitler hated Jews. Communist Russia was Jewish propaganda. You never hear that second part.

Anyway, if hitler was smart enough to negotiate peace with the Russians with a competent British prime minister who didn't **** every thing up, hitter would have easily gotten west Prussia and Posen with Stalin getting the rest of Poland.

Stalin would have probably ventured further south in Hungary, Romania and Yugoslavia. Hitler would have probably made ties with the Nordic countries or Mussolini. Mussolini would have probably made ties with Yugoslavia too.

In this mode, another world war would have happened, but it wouldn't be hitler. Too much tension at the time and Jews couldn't control Europe. War was going to happe.

Jews didn't really have it great in the Soviet Union either.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
well if it lasted longer, it would be a simple case of Holy Roman Empire versus Mongolians in terms of who gets what land. I imagine Europe doing fairly well, but Jewish communism was too strong.

Which Jews didn't have it great in Soviet Russia?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You actually believe in all the conspiracies about Jews in Europe?

Jews didn't really have it great in the Soviet Union either.

Originally posted by riv6672
Wow your reading comprehension is bad. 😆

Originally posted by It's xyz!
Which Jews didn't have it great in Soviet Russia?

nah

Originally posted by It's xyz!
nah

Originally posted by riv6672
I'd be part of the National Socialist system.
Why?
I consider Hitler a mad genius, Stalin not as much.

Hitler not only made a lot of bad decisions, but he routinely made a habit of ignoring the advice of not only his doctors, but his military advisors.

I don't think he was a genius, he was just charismatic and came around at just the right time in his country.

hitler spoke well. knew how to get a rise out of the crowd. look around at all these social media types who can barely piece together a sentence....all it would take is a charismatic speaker to manipulate them. Trump? don't know. people are really stupid socially nowadays

Originally posted by Surtur
Hitler not only made a lot of bad decisions, but he routinely made a habit of ignoring the advice of not only his doctors, but his military advisors.

I don't think he was a genius, he was just charismatic and came around at just the right time in his country.

I have strong opinions about this. Something here offends me. I learned everything I know from the Internet.

Originally posted by riv6672
You're certainly entitled to that opinion, however, genius and good decisions dont need to go hand in hand, in mine.
Just look at Tesla.

What do you feel Hitler did that makes him a genius? I'm serious, he got people on his side through a combination of charisma and propaganda. If you remove that from the equation what did he do that was so genius?

Also, what bad decisions did Tesla make? Surely you don't mean his wanting to give free energy to everyone?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I have strong opinions about this. Something here offends me. I learned everything I know from the Internet.

Quickly, flee to a safe space!! These words are weapons. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me: the biggest lie little kids are taught.

He trusted Edison, that was a bad decision.

That is true, Edison was an a-hole.

Originally posted by Surtur
Also, what bad decisions did Tesla make? Surely you don't mean his wanting to give free energy to everyone?