Assemble TOR strike team to beat Luke Skywalker

Started by The Ellimist5 pages

It's plausible. It's implied that the strike team + Revan can't beat Vitiate, so the gap between Revan and the Sith Emperor is probably at least comparable to the gap between, say, RotJ Vader and TPM Sidious (this isn't a rigorous fact and as with all of these ideas, involves some leaps of faith, but it seems plausible). [Legends] canon tells us that TPM Sidious > Vitiate.

How big is the gap between Vader and Maul? Maul is modestly below Dooku, but not unimaginably so. Dooku is probably fairly substantially below Vader as a Force user, but I think it's plausible to say that the gap is smaller than the Vader-Sidious one given that Vader does struggle with Jedi that are probably not on Dooku's level albeit before his prime in RotJ, and seeing as how Yoda only absorbs Dooku's lightning "far from easily". So let's say the gap from Maul to TPM Palpatine is like twice the gap from Vader to Palpatine, and ergo from Revan to Vitiate.

What's the gap between Luke and TPM Palpatine? Is it as big as the gap from Maul to Vader? That's plausible if we're talking about a no-holds-barred prime Luke. He's stated to have inherited his father's 200% of Sidious's potential. By DE, he just needs some "hidden resources" from Leia to beat DE Sidious, potential that can probably be unlocked with 30+ years of growth. He should be substantially beyond TPM Palpatine. I don't see how one could look at Luke's growth curve and, even knowing that he'll probably hit diminishing returns, conclude that in 30 years he can't make up the ground, if any, between his DE self and TPM Palpatine, and then enough to cover the gap between Maul and Vader.

I'm tired and rambling so this may be a little weird.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That's pretty funny. 👆

And ridiculous

It's not my problem that there's a character more wanked than even your Gawd Emprah. 👆

Soa with a Ysalamiri. awermm

YouTube video

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Luke knows how to resist ysalamiri, lmao.

Also no Soa, see OP. Luke would win though.

Nah.

Kephis then. awermm

LOL

Sorry that your favorite era can't muster a strike force of less than a dozen people to beat Luke. You're out Sued here. 👆

No worries Eliminist, SWTOR hasn't even unleashed it's most powerful weapon yet. 🙂

Originally posted by The Ellimist
LOL

Sorry that your favorite era can't muster a strike force of less than a dozen people to beat Luke. You're out Sued here. 👆

You mean, after you restricted the most powerful characters and made it a berserk, hyper-competent Luke? Gosh. Yeah that sure is pathetic. You are, I mean. 🙂

It's not like other era's could do it with similar restrictions.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I have the gap between Luke and Revan about the same as the gap between Palpatine and Maul.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Valkorion = 170
Vitiate (Rise of the Emperor) = 150
Luke Skywalker = 140
Palpatine (Dark Empire) = 140
The Sith Emperor (SWTOR original) = 130
Revan (Shadow of Revan) = 110
Palpatine (OT) = 100

Revan is actually above ROTJ Sids.

lmao

haermm

Revan, Dread Masters, Arcann, and Vaylin.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Revan, Dread Masters, Arcann, and Vaylin.

Do the dread masters have any noteworthy non-TP feats?

I'm not sure if this team is enough, tbh.

1. The most noteworthy TK feat they have IIRC is a weakling Esh-Ka Shaman drawing on one of the weakened!Dread Master's power to annihilate a large Rakatan statue via throwing a dude into it. Full power collective Dread >>>>>>>

2. Even if they had nothing other than TP, that'd still be extremely useful when Luke also has to deal with Revan, Arcann, and Vaylin.

3. Luke dies.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
1. The most noteworthy TK feat they have IIRC is a weakling Esh-Ka Shaman drawing on one of the weakened!Dread Master's power to annihilate a large Rakatan statue via throwing a dude into it. Full power collective Dread >>>>>>>

Yeah...that isn't really that much.


2. Even if they had nothing other than TP, that'd still be extremely useful when Luke also has to deal with Revan, Arcann, and Vaylin.

Hmmm I'm not so sure. I'm not convinced that they would be able to do anything before Luke blitzes them, or that their TP would actually have much of an effect on Luke (who has shown to be pretty good at dealing with multiple threats at once without letting his guard down). They couldn't break Revan with Vitiate's help in 300 years, nor could they break the protagonists; the most that they've done is to just drive a few ship crews insane, which Luke can do before NJO.


3. Luke dies.

Nah. It would be the B-team 2.0.

The Dread Masters and Revan alone might solo, lmfao.

lmao.

The dread masters are collectively nothing next to Vitiate. Luke >>>>>> Vitiate. Do the math. 👆

Vitiate, even as of the novel, is approaching Skywalker level. 👆

Wow, you must have Valkorion vastly above Sidious/Luke.