who is top dog of the low herald and mid herald class?

Started by Sin I AM4 pages

Originally posted by Digi
There aren't answers to questions like these. Or if there are, there are half a dozen or more reasonable ones. The tier system itself might be a hierarchy, but within individual tiers, it's anything but.

If I were to offer my own reasonable but hardly definitive guesses, I'd say God Cable for mid and maybe Graviton for low. Low herald especially is intensely matchup-dependent. There's not really a great answer, imo.

Graviton is a great answer. I was thinking him or Magneto in his prime. God Cable is also great but i was worried about him burning himself out. Personally id give BRB the nod for mid herald

Originally posted by Stoic
I'd nominate Ikaris for King of the mid Heralds.

Firelord for low

How the hell is Firelord below Ikaris?

Low- Captain Marvel

Mid- Black Bolt

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Low- Captain Marvel

Shazam himself gets his @$$ handed him by his kids who are low level demons (when the did it). A hell lord like Hellstrom is having no probs with his champion 🙂

Ikaris is above Mid Herald in my opinion.

Originally posted by beatboks
Shazam himself gets his @$$ handed him by his kids who are low level demons (when the did it). A hell lord like Hellstrom is having no probs with his champion 🙂

Carol Danvers

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Ikaris is above Mid Herald in my opinion.

I doubt that, Scott. I have a lot of respect for him, but he's not quite the sum total of his parts and can't really disperse a super high level attack. I think he is perfect as a mid herald.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I doubt that, Scott. I have a lot of respect for him, but he's not quite the sum total of his parts and can't really disperse a super high level attack. I think he is perfect as a mid herald.

When Captain America, Jimmy Hammond and Namor were fighting Ikaris. Cap stated that he was too powerful for them.

Here's the whole fight for reference.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
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And here's the respect thread.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=613247

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Carol Danvers

Only as Binary and then she's not low herald IMHO.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's listed there.

As is Doom, Doomsday, Cassandra Nova et al.


Last time I checked he was listed in the middle.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577922.html
Or is there a new thread?

Originally posted by beatboks
Shazam himself gets his @$$ handed him by his kids who are low level demons (when the did it). A hell lord like Hellstrom is having no probs with his champion 🙂

Wut? Cap will destroy Hellstrom.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
When Captain America, Jimmy Hammond and Namor were fighting Ikaris. Cap stated that he was too powerful for them.

Here's the whole fight for reference.

And here's the respect thread.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=613247

What high herald do you think hed split or win a majority against

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Graviton is a great answer. I was thinking him or Magneto in his prime. God Cable is also great but i was worried about him burning himself out. Personally id give BRB the nod for mid herald

If BRB's mid herald, so's Thor. No mid herald's gonna take the beating he did from Blood and Thunder Thor, and still knock him on his butt.

Not to mention fighting him pretty evenly for Mjolnir.

Originally posted by cdtm
If BRB's mid herald, so's Thor. No mid herald's gonna take the beating he did from Blood and Thunder Thor, and still knock him on his butt.

Not to mention fighting him pretty evenly for Mjolnir.

I don't see bill doing the things Thor has done though.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What high herald do you think hed split or win a majority against

I could start by saying he'd win a majority against Namor. When you see that battle he was trying his best not to attack while under mind control. And also to combine the fact that Cap said what he said.

Imagine him not holding back vs Namor.

Then you have the whole (even though I don't generally go by this) fact that Ikaris is the Prime Eternal which means he would technically have the power of Zuras but like I said I don't tend to use that as an example.

So I don't want to be to adventurous really. I'd say Namor he could easily defeat but it all really depends after that. Because if I said he could take Thor easily I don't know entirely how that would go. But I think he could beat Namor easily based on what we've seen.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I could start by saying he'd win a majority against Namor. When you see that battle he was trying his best not to attack while under mind control. And also to combine the fact that Cap said what he said.

Imagine him not holding back vs Namor.

Then you have the whole (even though I don't generally go by this) fact that Ikaris is the Prime Eternal which means he would technically have the power of Zuras but like I said I don't tend to use that as an example.

So I don't want to be to adventurous really. I'd say Namor he could easily defeat but it all really depends after that. Because if I said he could take Thor easily I don't know entirely how that would go. But I think he could beat Namor easily based on what we've seen.

Great assessment. I agree

Superman.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I don't see bill doing the things Thor has done though.

Read Stormbreaker. Waaay above mid herald in that thing.

Yah, but on average?

The Thor/BRB debate has happened 100 times. They stalemate each other in most categories, but Thor's versatility with Mjolnir is off the charts. He has dozens of feats that we can't just assume Bill could recreate. You may disagree with it, but in a nutshell, that's why Thor is HH and BRB is MH.

Also, sure, Stormbreaker. I read it too. But seriously go through the HH list and consider their best feats as well. There's wiggle room in all of this, but it's not without justification to have BRB at mid. And he's one of the most powerful mids, so everyone acknowledges that he's close.

As ever, the tiers are - and have always been - a rough guideline. About 90% of the discussion surrounding them revolves around people getting persnickety thinking that it's an absolute ranking. It's not. It's a rough gauge that was intended for people very new to the hobby, to get them up to speed on the forums, and for tourney purposes. It has almost no value for anyone who's been around for a while. except to fuel debate that has no true answer.

/srug

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Graviton is a great answer. I was thinking him or Magneto in his prime. God Cable is also great but i was worried about him burning himself out. Personally id give BRB the nod for mid herald

Yeah, Bill was my alternate to Cable.