Anakin Skywalker vs. Darth Malgus

Started by Syndicate11 pages

I don't care to respond to this tonight and I'm going up to the mountains for 3 days.

Don't expect a response till I get back.

Ew.

steady progression*

My grammar sickens me almost as much as not being able to edit after a few minutes.

Ah what the hell. Might as well get out a response before I go.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It's not exactly anything game-changing, but I'm curious; what's this from? I don't remember all that much content on Malgus prior to the Return trailer.

Is his rage supposed to make that more impressive? That's about as dumb as me wording the LoE feat as "Anakin collapsed a 30x90 meter dome merely with his voice".

Dominating protagonists? You mean pushing them a few meters away? I mean, it's not bad... But he did lose that fight, so I'm going to have to call your claim that he can dominate them with ease into question.

Don't pair "unchangeable factors" and "cutscenes" together as if they're the same thing; they're not.

The fact that there are repeating stages in the boss fight doesn't mean they're not game mechanics, also. Another thing in boss fights that is unchangeable is the fact that they have enough HP to be able to tank whacking them with a lightsaber for half an hour. If you agree that's ridiculous to take as a canonical representation of their abilities, then why is this any different? I'm only asking you to stay consistent. Boss battles are designed to be challenging and dynamic for the players, not to accurately represent the events of the story; obviously a boss that died after receiving a single lightsaber blow like they would realistically wouldn't make for much of a fight.

Even if you were stuck in the mind set that they are valid, I also listed another dozen reasons why they're still not practically useful in a debate in the other thread. Or maybe somewhere else in this one, I honestly can't recall.

That sounds like a lot of work, please have some mercy on us mobile users.

Fair enough, I understand the difference between ignorance and shady logic. 👆

"Malgus stood in a pocket under a mountain of rubble, legs bent, the power from his upraised hands preventing several tons of duracrete and steel from crushing him. Dust made his already troubled breathing more difficult. He coughed as the words of his father echoed in his mind.

He'd been sloppy, so lost in his need for revenge that he'd failed to properly evaluate the Jedi's power. He'd surrendered his reason to bloodlust. But no more. With an effort of will, he contained his anger, controlled it, made it a whetstone against which he sharpened his power. Using the Force, he blew the rubble up and away from him. It fell with a crash into the adjacent buildings. A Force-augmented leap carried him out and over the heap. The Jedi's eyes widened as Malgus hit the street. Malgus sneered and charged." - The Third Lesson.

My mistake on the second. It seems Malgus wasn't enraged at all. Only angered ( yes, there's a difference ).

"When the crowd did not respond to his demand, he slammed a fist into his palm and let anger-fueled power explode outward from his body. Screams sounded as the blast shoved everything away from him in all directions.

Bodies flew backward, slammed into one another, into the walls, against and through windows. The transport he’d rode on lurched from the blast. The doors of the medical facility flew from their mounts and crashed to the ground." - Deceived

You know my stance on this.

How I see it is that Malgus didn't choke the group for minutes on end. He simply did so for a brief period intending to incapacitate them but was stopped by one of the protagonists drawing away his attention. He goes to deal with them but then another protagonist frees themself.

That's fine, I believe you. I attribute those Sith Lords as having a similar level of strength though I'm sure they faced these strike teams before the protagonist's relative primes.

Gee thanks.

Don't have time to reply to this in full at the moment, but "The Third Lesson" is after the "Hope" trailer, not before "Return".

Ah, fair enough. I was told it was before by someone I've long forgotten.

Considering Malgus choking out all the protags is a complete and utter gameplay mechanic, not sure why we should take it seriously.

It's an unchangeable mechanic. Scale it to a realistic portrayal and you're fine.

No, it's just a gameplay mechanic. Four people there? Three people are disabled. Three? Two. And so on. It has no basis in anything concrete. The fact that it always happens does not make something legitimate.

The ground is immune to lightsaber blows. Adamantium dirt confirmed.

It is and it's also something that occurs every single time.

Is there any confirmation of how many people Malgus actually faced in the canon version of events? I had thought he'd always faced the team of 4.

Malgus better have brought lube, Anakin is going in dry.

Originally posted by Syndicate
It is and it's also something that occurs every single time.

And? Again, something always happening does not make something "canon." Most enemies always use every attack in their arsenal. That is how video games work.

Is there any confirmation of how many people Malgus actually faced in the canon version of events? I had thought he'd always faced the team of 4.

No, and there is basis for as little as one. There is nothing concrete about the setting, but given this has no evidence anywhere outside of scripts, it's not really a basis to judge Malgus.

I'm not saying a character using their powers in a gameplay fight makes it canon I'm saying events that occur every single time without fail.

Fair enough. I guess we'll ignore his FE showing since they can vary then.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Considering Malgus choking out all the protags is a complete and utter gameplay mechanic, not sure why we should take it seriously.

Proof that it's a gameplay mechanic?

Originally posted by Syndicate
It is and it's also something that occurs every single time.

Is there any confirmation of how many people Malgus actually faced in the canon version of events? I had thought he'd always faced the team of 4.

Only an idiot would think anything less than the 4 man protag strike team. It's the obvious intention.

And it is stated to be a team.

Can I get the quote for where it says its a team?

Anakin SLAUGHTERHOUSE

Nah. I'd still hold to all the statements I posted earlier even without the FE feats.

Anakin is considered to be the most powerful Jedi "of his generation, maybe any generation."

Malgus was a little bit before Anakin's generation iirc.

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It is true, then. Your decline into mental dysfunction is complete.