Do social justice courses have any place in college?

Started by Surtur10 pages

Do social justice courses have any place in college?

Quite simply..I don't think these courses have any place in college. We need to remove the activism from academia.

Do you agree? Disagree? If you agree maybe sign this petition to suspend these courses:

https://www.change.org/p/universities-suspend-social-justice-in-universities

I find I at least am given some hope for the future by reading some of the comments left by people who signed. A few of my personal favorites:

"I'm signing because I enrolled in a sociology class, but found myself in a leftist indoctrination ritual. Instead of instructing us on what sociology is, we were force-fed a basket of racist, sexist, and discriminatory ideas. We were told that whiteness is evil. We were told that men are scum. We were told that Karl Marx was the only 'sociologist' worth paying attention to.

We did not learn about sociology."

"Intellectual diversity can not blossom in an echo chamber. Ideological segregation countermines higher learning."

"What is happening in universities is despicable: people running to safe spaces when they hear different opinions, believing that the world & everyone in it is out to get them, preventing anyone with conflicting ideas from organizing events, the list goes on and on. These university courses are doing nothing but coddling these students into thinking that literally everyone & everything is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, & problematic."

Re: Do social justice courses have any place in college?

Yes

Yes, but not as ultra-leftist echo chambers.

I don't think Marx would approve of his work being appropriated into this absurd social justice movement.

Social justice should be a very, very small aspect of sociology class. It could be a chapter in a book. Marx, however, would naturally dominate many of the courses as class theory is one of the first thing you learn about in sociology. Together with functionalism, legal-rational model, and so on.

This thread should be retitled "do I just repeat everything Sargon of Akadd posts on YouTube"

Re: Do social justice courses have any place in college?

Originally posted by Surtur
Quite simply..I don't think these courses have any place in college. We need to remove the activism from academia.

Do you agree? Disagree? If you agree maybe sign this petition to suspend these courses:

https://www.change.org/p/universities-suspend-social-justice-in-universities

I find I at least am given some hope for the future by reading some of the comments left by people who signed. A few of my personal favorites:

[b]"I'm signing because I enrolled in a sociology class, but found myself in a leftist indoctrination ritual. Instead of instructing us on what sociology is, we were force-fed a basket of racist, sexist, and discriminatory ideas. We were told that whiteness is evil. We were told that men are scum. We were told that Karl Marx was the only 'sociologist' worth paying attention to.

We did not learn about sociology."

"Intellectual diversity can not blossom in an echo chamber. Ideological segregation countermines higher learning."

"What is happening in universities is despicable: people running to safe spaces when they hear different opinions, believing that the world & everyone in it is out to get them, preventing anyone with conflicting ideas from organizing events, the list goes on and on. These university courses are doing nothing but coddling these students into thinking that literally everyone & everything is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, & problematic." [/B]

All rhetoric, no substance.

You've provided nothing to stimulate genuine discussion. This is legitimately one of the worst threads I've ever seen. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Re: Re: Do social justice courses have any place in college?

Originally posted by NemeBro
All rhetoric, no substance.

You've provided nothing to stimulate genuine discussion. This is legitimately one of the worst threads I've ever seen. You should be ashamed of yourself.

You see that is how this new fangled "forum" thing works. I post a topic for discussion. People respond with their own views, and then I can share mine in turn, that is how this "discussion" thing works.

Yep, I'm so ashamed of the topic I posted on a comic book message board about social justice. Do you have anything of substance to add, or did you just show up to make a post with no substance about how my post had no substance? Do you have anything relevant to add? Would you like to contribute anything? Or was this just so you can come talk about how this is one of the "worst threads you've ever seen". Which holy shit buddy, you musn't of seen many topics on this forum then, because it's *nowhere* near as bad as others and in fact is fairly tame. But hey you do you.

Originally posted by jaden101
This thread should be retitled "do I just repeat everything Sargon of Akadd posts on YouTube"

The problem is I flat out state in my post I was posting quotes from people who'd signed the petition. You see plenty of people want social justice courses gone.

I mean if you want to say it lacks substance because I didn't share my own views then okay, but I was waiting to see what others said first.

Since of course I think these courses have no place on college campuses. Not that social justice can't be discussed, we just don't need a course dedicated ENTIRELY to social f*cking justice.

If people do want actual courses dedicated to it, then I'd hope they would admit that it would be good if these courses also covered the utter destruction overly zealous SJW's can do.

Originally posted by Surtur
Since of course I think these courses have no place on college campuses. Not that social justice can't be discussed, we just don't need a course dedicated ENTIRELY to social f*cking justice.

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I mean I would totally be more accepting of it if they talked about the pitfalls of the extreme SJW as well. Either tell both sides of the tale or don't tell the tale at all.

We need to teach kids racism isn't cool, but also that...this, this f*cking monstrosity, this "Triggering" is also so far from cool it's not even funny.

A good video to watch:

YouTube video

Don't worry guys, there are more videos like this out there. I have plenty more substance to show.

Re: Re: Re: Do social justice courses have any place in college?

Originally posted by Surtur
You see that is how this new fangled "forum" thing works. I post a topic for discussion. People respond with their own views, and then I can share mine in turn, that is how this "discussion" thing works.

Threads should stimulate discussion, and how can they do that if all the OP is is a bunch of garbage? No one wants to respond to your shitty thread because there wasn't any coherent reasoning in it. You should thank me for enlightening you.

Yep, I'm so ashamed of the topic I posted on a comic book message board about social justice. Do you have anything of substance to add, or did you just show up to make a post with no substance about how my post had no substance? Do you have anything relevant to add? Would you like to contribute anything? Or was this just so you can come talk about how this is one of the "worst threads you've ever seen". Which holy shit buddy, you musn't of seen many topics on this forum then, because it's *nowhere* near as bad as others and in fact is fairly tame. But hey you do you.

You shouldn't be ashamed of yourself due to the thread. You should be ashamed because of why it was made in this state.

Which is to say, you should be ashamed of what a simple-minded retard you are.

Why would I want to provide substance to a garbage thread? See, the difference between me and you is that I don't shit up the forum with these garbage threads like you do, nor am I nearly as active in posting my garbage. You do this constantly, and the forum suffers for it. You're a plague, and I am the cure.

The problem is I flat out state in my post I was posting quotes from people who'd signed the petition. You see plenty of people want social justice courses gone.

A shame it was all source-less, substance-less garbage.

Just because people want something doesn't mean they have a point.

But I'll be nice and give my own opinion: I don't know, I have never seen a social justice course at my college. And, in fact, your shitty change.org link doesn't actually name any examples of social justice courses, and I'm not watching some phaggot's fruity youtube channel, and I doubt anyone else wants to.

This is why your post and your thread is awful. 👇

The title of the thread is the actual point of it, that is what was intended to stimulate discussion. This isn't hard to grasp, and if nobody wants to reply to my thread why have you replied twice? Just to spout bullshit about "enlightening" me?

I posted some quotes people, so what the f*ck does that have to do with "source less"? It was a quote by someone, there is no source but the person who said it.

Oh and also:

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm not watching some phaggot's fruity youtube channel, and I doubt anyone else wants to.

Wow, you're kind of shitty aren't you? There is no other way to put it, you are a bigot.

Oh btw: plenty of people here have watched that "phaggots" youtube.

Originally posted by Surtur
The title of the thread is the actual point of it, that is what was intended to stimulate discussion. This isn't hard to grasp, and if nobody wants to reply to my thread why have you replied twice? Just to spout bullshit about "enlightening" me?

I posted some quotes people, so what the f*ck does that have to do with "source less"? It was a quote by someone, there is no source but the person who said it.

The title of a thread does nothing to inform or persuade people who don't already have a stake in the topic. Bardock for example already has his own opinion on the matter, and you've done nothing to demonstrate why your point of view is better, not in the OP or since. So for those who don't have any real opinion the title of your thread does nothing, which is why your thread is worthless. 👇

You posted some quotes, so what? What point were you trying to make with those quotes? That some people want social justice courses to be taken down? Your quotes provided nothing useful. I could find three quotes from three random jackoffs that state that black people are inherently inferior to white people. But so what? It doesn't prove anything.

I have not prob with them as long as they are electives and I am not FORCED to take it. If you want Liberal Mush crammed down your throat, and you want to pay for it. Feel free! I personally prefer to pay for that sort of thing on the street where its safer.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The title of a thread does nothing to inform or persuade people who don't already have a stake in the topic. Bardock for example already has his own opinion on the matter, and you've done nothing to demonstrate why your point of view is better, not in the OP or since. So for those who don't have any real opinion the title of your thread does nothing, which is why your thread is worthless. 👇

The point of the thread wasn't to demonstrate my point of view was better though, so we can scratch that. Then let us see..if people don't have an opinion then they don't need to respond, so that takes care of that.

You posted some quotes, so what?

Yes, SO what?

What point were you trying to make with those quotes?

So maybe you missed what I said before the quotes, here let me refresh your memory:

"I find I at least am given some hope for the future by reading some of the comments left by people who signed. A few of my personal favorites"

You see, the "point" was that I was glad some people are showing what I feel is common sense about this, and then I posted a few quotes that I felt demonstrated that.

That some people want social justice courses to be taken down?

YES! I literally said that shit prior to posting the quotes, what is so difficult for you to grasp? Stop acting like everything has to have some grand point or meaning behind it.

Your quotes provided nothing useful. I could find three quotes from three random jackoffs that state that black people are inherently inferior to white people. But so what? It doesn't prove anything.

But again you seem to be assuming I was trying to prove some kind of fact with the quotes lol. I wasn't. I was not quoting those people and saying "see, this proves without a shadow of a doubt these courses need to go".

You see not all discussions have some kind of hidden agenda. This wasn't me trying to sway people who want these courses into changing their minds.

Originally posted by Surtur
The point of the thread wasn't to demonstrate my point of view was better though, so we can scratch that. Then let us see..if people don't have an opinion then they don't need to respond, so that takes care of that.

Yes, SO what?

So maybe you missed what I said before the quotes, here let me refresh your memory:

"I find I at least am given some hope for the future by reading some of the comments left by people who signed. A few of my personal favorites"

You see, the "point" was that I was glad some people are showing what I feel is common sense about this, and then I posted a few quotes that I felt demonstrated that.

YES! I literally said that shit prior to posting the quotes, what is so difficult for you to grasp? Stop acting like everything has to have some grand point or meaning behind it.

But again you seem to be assuming I was trying to prove some kind of fact with the quotes lol. I wasn't. I was not quoting those people and saying "see, this proves without a shadow of a doubt these courses need to go".

You see not all discussions have some kind of hidden agenda. This wasn't me trying to sway people who want these courses into changing their minds.

Ah okay, I think I follow. You didn't ever want a discussion, you wanted a safe space where you could circle jerk your own points of view without anyone to challenge them.

A forum is a poor medium for that practice.

No I don't think you follow, but allow me to enlighten you I do not mind: I wanted a discussion, but I did not set out to change the hearts and minds of people who disagree with me. That doesn't actually mean people couldn't "challenge" me.

I think he/she/it got just what they wanted. To be an A-hole.

and I aint talking about Surtur.