Black Panther Vs Batman

Started by EcstaticGrace4 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Everyone and their mother has claimed that in the comics. Daredevil has beaten Panther in fight and Red Skull has destroyed him in h2h.

Pfft, Bruce stalemated Karate Kid and beats Bane by his bare hands who has overpowered Cap decisively.

How would BP have a better physicals?

All false. Keep trying.

Yet more consistently stalemated Cap and Beaten Wolverine

Not to long ago Grayson bested Bruce, Copperhead nearly killed him and Bane all he has is a physical edge that's probably not above Panther. Bane's fighting skill isn't comparable to Batman yet Batman struggles with him because of physicals.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just that? Batman pressure pointed Grundy in oblivion and has actually overpowered Aquaman in h2h.

Still waiting for the feats which show he is stronger.

I'm not sure about the Grundy instance but basing it off the Aquaman instance im.betting there's context you seem to be excluding.

Cause the only fight I remember between Batman and Aquaman. Is in Legends #27 and previous to the fight Aquaman suggested he was having problems moving on dry land because he felt lighter. The fact that he got hits in and his movement was off isn't to great on Bruce's part.

http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/11124/111244877/5043972-2016-02-07_15.25.29.jpg

By logic if your movement is troubled your at a disability in a fight.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/aquaman/4005-2357/forums/aquaman-misconceptions-and-facts-thread-1768562/

In a fight Panther in my honest opinion loses to Namur but the fact he's able to do this

Striking
http://m.imgur.com/TJLZNMY?r

Speed
http://m.imgur.com/P1WYZ3h?r

Durability
http://i.imgur.com/zVsIvtk.jpg

😉
http://m.imgur.com/cPFG08g?r

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Yet more consistently stalemated Cap and Beaten Wolverine

He has like one fight with Cap and fought a HF less Wolverine once.

Color me unimpressed.

Not to long ago Grayson bested Bruce, Copperhead nearly killed him and Bane all he has is a physical edge that's probably not above Panther. Bane's fighting skill isn't comparable to Batman yet Batman struggles with him because of physicals.

Bruce was testing Dick. Copperhead is a legit meta.

Bane without Venom has feats that shit on Panther's. Batman has beaten him on an overdose of Venom.

So nope.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I'm not sure about the Grundy instance but basing it off the Aquaman instance im.betting there's context you seem to be excluding.

Here it is.

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=supermanbatman3-batkogrundy.jpg

Cause the only fight I remember between Batman and Aquaman. Is in Legends #27 and previous to the fight Aquaman suggested he was having problems moving on dry land because he felt lighter. The fact that he got hits in and his movement was off isn't to great on Bruce's part.

http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/11124/111244877/5043972-2016-02-07_15.25.29.jpg

Yes, getting hit by a legit 50 tonner and overpowering him isn't that great.

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=lotdcu27-batvsaquaman1.jpg

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=lotdcu27-batvsaquaman2.jpg

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=lotdcu27-batvsaquaman3.jpg

He might have been feeling unsteady but that doesn't means he was somehow weaker than usual.

By logic if your movement is troubled your at a disability in a fight.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/aquaman/4005-2357/forums/aquaman-misconceptions-and-facts-thread-1768562/

Uh, if you think Batman overpowered him due to him being unsteady, you're in quite a bit of shock.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
In a fight Panther in my honest opinion loses to Namur but the fact he's able to do this

Striking
http://m.imgur.com/TJLZNMY?r

Speed
http://m.imgur.com/P1WYZ3h?r

Durability
http://i.imgur.com/zVsIvtk.jpg

😉
http://m.imgur.com/cPFG08g?r

Do what? Punch him once? Batman has actually overpowered an amped wonder woman in h2h.

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=jlascarymonster6-batvsdemondiana1.jpg

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=jlascarymonster6-batvsdemondiana2.jpg

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=jlascarymonster6-batvsdemondiana3.jpg

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=jlascarymonster6-batvsdemondiana4.jpg

Got the upper hand on Lobo.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvslobo-ds1a.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvslobo-ds1b.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvslobo-ds1c.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvslobo-ds1d.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvslobo-ds1e.jpg

Just a backhand.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batbackhandlobo1.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batbackhandlobo2.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Here it is.

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=supermanbatman3-batkogrundy.jpg

Yes, getting hit by a legit 50 tonner and overpowering him isn't that great.

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=lotdcu27-batvsaquaman1.jpg

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=lotdcu27-batvsaquaman2.jpg

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Skills%20Misc/?action=view&current=lotdcu27-batvsaquaman3.jpg

He might have been feeling unsteady but that doesn't means he was somehow weaker than usual.

Uh, if you think Batman overpowered him due to him being unsteady, you're in quite a bit of shock.


] I saw the scans of Aquaman vs Batman I read Legends #27 it's funny how your trying to suggest he's overpowered someone who has no balance so his movement was hindered.

The fact Deathstroke normally best Batman because of physicals alone or matches him. Yet bounces off Aquaman's chest can't harm him suggest that either Aquaman was at a disadvantage at that point of time against Batman or that it's PIS. Given that an earlier scan in the same title suggest he dislikes coming on land and that he feels unsteady and has nothing to push against makes it suggest the prior instance is probably the case. Aquaman weighs around 250 picking him up when he's having problems to stay on the ground in the first place shouldn't be to difficult for Batman considering he's capable of benching a ton. Batman has flipped Superman over its not overpowering it's lifting a character who doesn't weigh as much as the force he can distribute.

Aquaman is not a 50 tonner as well he exceeds that and I was assuming Pre-Darkseid War Batman entailed New52 before the Mobile chair.

If this is a composite Batman is up to the OP. I already suggest Batman could probably pressure point but I don't know how much damage he can do to the actual suit without that which can take chi amped punches from Iron Fist which in average are stronger strikes then Batman's.

I don't get the context for the Wonder Woman or Lobo instances either but I'm assuming there is some form of context or that it's PIS if we're looking at consistency

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I saw the scabs of Aquaman vs Batman I read Legends #27 it's funny how your trying to suggest he's overpowered someone who has no balance so his movement was hindered.

Yes, his movement was hindered but it doesn't takes away from his striking power.

And he had him overpowered in a gorilla press. That's as clear as you can get.

The fact Deathstroke normally best Batman because of physicals alone or matches him. Yet bounces off Aquaman's chest can't harm him suggest that either Aquaman was at a disadvantage at that point of time against Batman or that it's PIS.

Or the two writers have different idea of how these characters matches up. Deathstroke beating Batman doesn't takes away from Batman's feat.

Given that an earlier scan in the same title suggest he dislikes coming on land and that he feels unsteady and has nothing to push against makes it suggest the prior instance is probably the case. Aquaman weighs around 250 picking him up when he's having problems to stay on the ground in the first place shouldn't be to difficult for Batman considering he's capable of benching a ton.

Are you serious with this? Aquaman punches Bruce who no sells it and then gorilla presses him and had him dead to rights and that's simply lifting him over his head?

Man, you're just full of excuses.

Batman has flipped Superman over man its not overpowering it's lifting a character who doesn't weigh as much as the force he can distribute.

By surprise when Superman is not paying him attention. Batman nearly crippled himself punching Superman even after superman rolled with his punch.

This is not a surprise scenario.

Aquaman is not a 50 tonner as well he exceeds that and I was assuming Pre-Darkseid War Batman entailed New52 before the Mobile chair.

Wut? Speak English.

Black Panther

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I don't get the context for the Wonder Woman or Lobo instances either but I'm assuming there is some form of context or that it's PIS if we're looking at consistency

Ah yes, tried and tested tactics of CBR and comicvine. Anything you don't like is PIS on base of consistency.

Yet, Panther hurting Namor with a punch is valid.

👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, his movement was hindered but it doesn't takes away from his striking power.

And he had him overpowered in a gorilla press. That's as clear as you can get.

Or the two writers have different idea of how these characters matches up. Deathstroke beating Batman doesn't takes away from Batman's feat.

Are you serious with this? Aquaman punches Bruce who no sells it and then gorilla presses him and had him dead to rights and that's simply lifting him over his head?

Man, you're just full of excuses.

By surprise when Superman is not paying him attention. Batman nearly crippled himself punching Superman even after superman rolled with his punch.

This is not a surprise scenario.

Wut? Speak English.

http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/11124/111244877/5043972-2016-02-07_15.25.29.jpg

By logic every punch he'd throw would be affected by him trying to stay grounded. Garth had the same issue in Titans Hunt not that long ago. It's hardly and excuse given that the writer put it in right before the fight a bit convenient.

He lifted him up the character weighs about 250 and is having already existing problems staying on land I'm not making that up that's in the book right before the fight.

By your logic Batman on venom is S-Tier then because when he's on it he can make Superman bleed.

How do you type in "Wut" and then say speak english, which is stupid in the fact we're not speaking were typing.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ah yes, tried and tested tactics of CBR and comicvine. Anything you don't like is PIS on base of consistency.

Yet, Panther hurting Namor with a punch is valid.

👆

I posted something a little less surprising you posted a bunch of stuff you probably found online and seems like PIS due to consistency.

Give me issue numbers for the Wonder Woman and Lobo thing so I can read up on it to see if there's anything missing. If there's not it just comes off more the so valid.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/11124/111244877/5043972-2016-02-07_15.25.29.jpg

By logic every punch he'd throw would be affected by him trying to stay grounded. Garth had the same issue in Titans Hunt not that long ago. It's hardly and excuse given that the writer put it in right before the fight a bit convenient.

How does him being feeling lighter has to yo do with his striking power which suddenly dropped to Batman level as per your excuses?

He lifted him up the character weighs about 250 and is having already existing problems staying on land I'm not making that up that's in the book right before the fight.

Your "logic" makes no sense whatsoever.

What are you trying to say here?

By your logic Batman on venom is S-Tier then because when he's on it he can make Superman bleed.

Making Superman bleed doesn't makes you Superman level.

How do you type in "Wut" and then say speak english, which is stupid in the fact we're not speaking were typing.

Yeah, you're just too bright at this point.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I posted something a little less surprising you posted a bunch of stuff you probably found online and seems like PIS due to consistency.

Batman has fought Diana five times and always does that good.

PIS would be him oneshotting Wonder Woman with a kick.

So what inconsistency?

Give me issue numbers for the Wonder Woman and Lobo thing so I can read up on it to see if there's anything missing. If there's not it just comes off more the so valid.

JLA Scary Monsters 6 and Batman/Lobo: Deadly Serious.

Go ahead.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How does him being feeling lighter has to yo do with his striking power which suddenly dropped to Batman level as per your excuses?

Your "logic" makes no sense whatsoever.

What are you trying to say here?

Making Superman bleed doesn't makes you Superman level.

Yeah, you're just too bright at this point.

If your struggling to stay grounded yes your punches are going to be affected. Imagine trying to fight in space or on the moon to try to be any effected your not only going to have to fight the person but fight gravity itself. Gravity is all the same on Earth sure but The pressure he's use to is different on open air. He lives in a environment that is 832 times more dense then air and has been before stated moves in pressures that 15tons per square inch. So I'd say him struggling to stay grounded suggest he's not only fighting Batman but the pressure difference as well. Otherwise why state it in the comic right before the fight? I hope you can follow that.

Does suggest your capable and strong enough to harm Superman better yet without harming himself.
Appreciate the issue numbers I'll be back after reading them.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
If your struggling to stay grounded yes your punches are going to be affected. Imagine trying to fight in space or on the moon to try to be any effected your not only going to have to fight the person but fight gravity itself. Gravity is all the same on Earth sure but The pressure he's use to is different on open air. He lives in a environment that is 832 times more dense then air and has been before stated moves in pressures that 15tons per square inch. So I'd say him struggling to stay grounded suggest he's not only fighting Batman but the pressure difference as well. Otherwise why state it in the comic right before the fight? I hope you can follow that.

That logic makes no sense at all. In a lighter environment you'll actually punch harder since you wouldn't have water's resistance to dampen your striking power.

He is not in a vacuum, he is on earth. That's one of reason kryptonians have power on Earth, the lighter gravity means that they are naturally stronger than any human.

Appreciate the issue numbers I'll be back after reading them.

OK.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That logic makes no sense at all. In a lighter environment you'll actually punch harder since you wouldn't have water's resistance to dampen your striking power.

He is not in a vacuum, he is on earth. That's one of reason kryptonians have power on Earth, the lighter gravity means that they are naturally stronger than any human.

OK.

If he had balance sure yes he'd be stronger on Earth but the fact remains he feels lightweight and is fighting against the pressure difference trying to stay grounded. Pretty clear as the writers intent reason why that explanation was givwn right before the fight. I'm sure later he's able to learn to adjust to these changes. If you don't have proper balance how effective would a punch that you throw be? Given that you seem to know about fighting that should make a bit sense that not having proper balance should lower the effect of the way you punch. Aquaman has harmed characters like Amazo, Piscator, Despero, and Titus with a punch in that continuity or at least made them feel it a guy with the strength to lift a city block wouldn't be overpowered by Batman and hence wasn't, given the in comic explanation that he was struggling to stay grounded.

I have a harder time believing he could do better against Diana. Out of curiosity where'd you purchase Scary Monsters doesn't seem to be available on Comixology.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Batman has fought Diana five times and always does that good.

PIS would be him oneshotting Wonder Woman with a kick.

So what inconsistency?

JLA Scary Monsters 6 and Batman/Lobo: Deadly Serious.

Go ahead.

Batman has also lasted a long time against Superman too, I guess it's not pis, just Batman being that good right?

Real Batman loses.

JL low herald Batman wins.