Who has the greatest intellectual feats between Reed, Doom or T'challa

Originally posted by SWblayde938
thats a fair point....I saw T'challa as being number 3 because he always seems to be Reed's go to partner when it comes to technical science stuff but thats probably more because its easier to work with T'challa than Hank or Tony etc.

Grace, you are right that Victor said he was on equal footing with T'challa for years...

but remember in Doomwar, Victor was able to unlock the full potential of Vibranium that generations of Wakandian scientists, sorcerers and T'challa himself could not unlock

Same logic though would suggest Reed didn't know the true nature of Galactus and The Ultimates found that out. Still place him above any of the Ultimates scientically though. But keep in mind during Doomwar is when T'Challa started focusing more on magic something he wasn't that knowledgeable on and probably didn't know much if at all that Vibranium had magic properties. Whereas Doom practices the Arcane.

Reed is smartest, his daughter Valeria is his closest peer. Doom is a pussy, and T'Charlie dresses like a cat.

Ok after Reed and Doom

I can see Pym being ahead of T'challa but after that...no one else

I don't think anyone can argue Tony is ahead of T'challa

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Reed is smartest, his daughter Valeria is his closest peer. Doom is a pussy, and T'Charlie dresses like a cat.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Reed is smartest, his daughter Valeria is his closest peer. Doom is a pussy, and T'Charlie dresses like a cat.

Originally posted by SWblayde938
Ok after Reed and Doom

I can see Pym being ahead of T'challa but after that...no one else

I don't think anyone can argue Tony is ahead of T'challa

Valeria was a pretty good mention actually. Tony tends to be the best at mechanical engineering that's even above Reed but I wouldn't equate that to overall intelligence.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Valeria was a pretty good mention actually. Tony tends to be the best at mechanical engineering that's even above Reed but I wouldn't equate that to overall intelligence.

well i think Tony has the greater practical intelligence...while people like Reed have the greatest theoretical knowlege etc.

http://i.imgur.com/2UDwT1Y.jpg

On top of this, in terms of building, Tony is > Reed, according to Reed.
http://i.imgur.com/0AnGiL2.jpg

Originally posted by SWblayde938
Reed/Doom

T'challa

generally considered the 3 most intelligent humans in all of Marvel....

who has the greatest intellectual feats (science +strategic+ prep etc. etc. and otherwise) of all 3?

As far a simple intelligence goes. Id place the HE or Charles, Valeria, Moira Mctaggert above the likes of Tchalla. This list seems off to me

Originally posted by riv6672
You are correct, i apologize. Could have sworn you'd quoted the OP earlier.

In regards to this thread, the right answer is Reed, Doom, BP.
Top 5, top 10? Hit me with your list.

1. Reed Richards- respectedany most as the smartest man in the world and master of all feilds of science, particularly cosmic radiation and antimatter physics (negative zone)

2. Dr. Doom- Some may say that Doom is the evil intellectual counterpart to Richards in all fields of science, however, Doom has also perfected a field that many would dare claim as science, dark magic. Although Pym has stated that "Magic is just science that I have yet to figure out." Doom is also a genius in the fields of robotics and energy absorption/manipulation.

3. Hank Pym- dubbed as the scientist supreme, Pym is the leading man in the fields of biocybernetics (ultron), bio-particle physics, and multi dimensional physics (Pym particles/micro- and macroverses)

4. Bruce Banner- always portrayed to be a master of radiation biophysics, particularly high frequency gamma rays absorption; as of late, Banner has been shown to also be a master of many other fields of science ranging from technology (force fields/teleportation) to genetics (cellular manipulation of his own DNA to control the Hulk). We also see in Fall of the Hulks story arc that Banner is a master strategist.

5. Tony Stark- always seen as the leading innovator of all things tech, Stark is particularly known for his works in weaponry and being a master at futurism, the ability to predict future problems and develop solutions before they even present themselves. However, after the civil war and secret invasion, we come to realize that Starks genius is best served on the circuit boards.

^^^Thats pretty much the top 5 right there.

Then you have guys like:

Amadeus Cho-mathematics/physics

Hank McCoy-genetics

M.O.D.O.K.-genetics

The Leader-radiation

High Evolutionary-genetics

Mr. Sinister-genetics

Charles Xavier-neuroscience/psychology/tech

Dr. Nemesis-physiology

Prodigy-many fields

Cypher-technology/code

Forge-technology

Noh-Varr-technology

Arnim Zola-genetics

Magneto-Electromagnetism/Technology/physiology

And many more.
So yeah, BP breaking the top 10? Not IMO. Not to say he's dumb. Not to say he cant invent things.
But he's the King of one of the most advanced nations on the planet. He doesnt have to be the smartest. He has people for that. Heck, he has Reed for that.

Id put Stark above Banner Riv, but not mad at the list at all.

Edit. Parker should be up there as well.

but the thing is.....alot of you are putting Tony above T'challa

but T'challa has outsmarted Tony in many occasions...

Originally posted by SWblayde938
but the thing is.....alot of you are putting Tony above T'challa

but T'challa has outsmarted Tony in many occasions...

Sure there are a lot of scientists in the MU that are really smart in a certain area like Tony in mechanics, but characters like T'Challa can build machines as well and then go on to do other things in different areas of science or even intelligence. It's a bit disregarding in my opinion to put Xavier above him.

Can the "scientist supreme" meme end please?

It was Loki.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Can the "scientist supreme" meme end please?

It was Loki.

I'm thinking of Reed telling Hank he'll always be ahead of him and never able to be reached.

Reed gives Tony a lot of plaudits here.

Originally posted by SWblayde938
but the thing is.....alot of you are putting Tony above T'challa

but T'challa has outsmarted Tony in many occasions...

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I don't get how Reed talking Tony up for survival is being noted more then the multiple occasions Panther has outsmarted someone or been stated as equals or placed in a bracket of intelligence.

Sure there are a lot of scientists in the MU that are really smart in a certain area like Tony in mechanics, but characters like T'Challa can build machines as well and then go on to do other things in different areas of science or even intelligence. It's a bit disregarding in my opinion to put Xavier above him.

being a polymath doesn't necesarry mean you are more intelligent than someone highly specialized

Originally posted by SWblayde938
Reed/Doom

T'challa

generally considered the 3 most intelligent humans in all of Marvel....

who has the greatest intellectual feats (science +strategic+ prep etc. etc. and otherwise) of all 3?

What is T'Challa doing here?

Masturbating while other TOP50 most intelligent humans do the work?

Because he's dumb as hell, barely Batman level.

Reed has the second greatest intellectual feat in comics - recreating the multiverse from memory.

Doom has the greatest intellectual feat in comics - being better than Reed.