Barring prep or circumstances not accessible in strict combat like this, this should be a good fight. Zeus is the more durable of the two by far, while Valkorion seems to have had more destructive displays of power on demand, except for Zeus annihilating the Spartans in GoW II with a wave of the BoO. In Round 1, however, Zeus doesn't have the luxury of the BoO (although you might argue he didn't need it to destroy the Spartans), so unless he unleashes a charged blast, I can't see him winning a Lightning contest based on feats.
He has a few destructive feats, like:
https://youtu.be/aOqi1AZemtA?t=1316
https://youtu.be/y5SGmg9QTjY?t=137
https://youtu.be/HM-cnciBZDs?t=228
And then some other things like making gods mortal, growing mountain-sized and then firing lightning storms from his finger-tips, and projecting his Astral Form which is capable of trapping people in their own psyches and making them relieve their worst memories. He's also pretty much canonically more powerful than Ares, who, as I recall, created a pocket dimension/reality and effortlessly obliterated an army by turning them inside-out/disintegrating them, among other things.
The bolt feat was pretty damn impressive, ngl. The other ones were done with the sword though, and I'm not sure whether or not Valkorion could beat him with the BoO. Without, though, I'd argue stripping Ziost of life with a tsunami of dark side energy only to grow much stronger from it is more impressive. The outer energies of his attack on Arcann while weakened were creating an enormous lightning storm that killed hundreds and seemingly created lightning storms across the sky, too. Then there's the weird speed/perception thing he can do as a spirit, TP/mind ****ery, plus the immense power he retains as a spirit in general.
I can definitely see Valkorion defeating Zeus through haxx, if not sheer power, though star wars' lack of durability may cause Valkorion's physical form to be defeated. His spirit haxx may be too much for non blade GoW Zeus.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The bolt feat was pretty damn impressive, ngl.
Yeah, and the Titan that he knocked off the cliff was actually Gaia, who embodies the Earth itself.
The other ones were done with the sword though, and I'm not sure whether or not Valkorion could beat him with the BoO.
In fairness, what stops him from being stabbed by the blade? Because Zeus can also teleport and do all of the movement-based stuff that Valkorion can do. I'm not too sure Valky can Deflect the blade attacks either, since Zeus was matching Kratos in muscle, and that's someone who can rip off the heads of gods.
That, and if Zeus teleports a safe distance, he can do what I posted in the third video and BFR Valkorion to Tartarus.
Without, though, I'd argue stripping Ziost of life with a tsunami of dark side energy only to grow much stronger from it is more impressive. The outer energies of his attack on Arcann while weakened were creating an enormous lightning storm that killed hundreds and seemingly created lightning storms across the sky, too.
Fair on all of this.
Then there's the weird speed/perception thing he can do as a spirit, TP/mind ****ery, plus the immense power he retains as a spirit in general.
How does the perception thing factor into this fight?
I can definitely see Valkorion defeating Zeus through haxx, if not sheer power
What haxx, exactly? The perception thing might need a little more elucidation, and the only way I'm seeing him win as of now is through his Lightning. I mean, technically, he can't even kill Zeus with it (he needs to extinguish the Flame of Olympus first and then use the Blade of Olympus to kill Zeus, but we can forget about that for this fight).
though star wars' lack of durability may cause Valkorion's physical form to be defeated.
Can Valkorion withstand any of the energy attacks I posted above? Also, if Zeus grows super-sized and shoots a Lightning Storm from his fingertips, I wonder how Valkorion would fare. Not sure if Zeus' depowerment thing would work on Valkorion either.
His spirit haxx may be too much for non blade GoW Zeus.
Likewise, Zeus's Astral Form might be immune to everything Valkorion can do, and it has Magic Drain (which you could argue is useless against Valk) and psyche-trapping/fear-inducing TP.
Other than that, Zeus can banish people to Tartarus, which is basically Hell or the worst part of the Underworld. Traditionally, that is where souls go, so I don't think it's out of Zeus' ability to banish Valkorion's spirit there, especially not when he has the BoO.
Round 1 Valky for similar reasons to this:
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The bolt feat was pretty damn impressive, ngl. The other ones were done with the sword though, and I'm not sure whether or not Valkorion could beat him with the BoO. Without, though, I'd argue stripping Ziost of life with a tsunami of dark side energy only to grow much stronger from it is more impressive. The outer energies of his attack on Arcann while weakened were creating an enormous lightning storm that killed hundreds and seemingly created lightning storms across the sky, too. Then there's the weird speed/perception thing he can do as a spirit, TP/mind ****ery, plus the immense power he retains as a spirit in general.I can definitely see Valkorion defeating Zeus through haxx, if not sheer power, though star wars' lack of durability may cause Valkorion's physical form to be defeated. His spirit haxx may be too much for non blade GoW Zeus.
Round 2 I'd honestly say Valky assuming Zeus doesn't banish him early on. He usually fights with very minimal effort/exertion until he understands that his opponent won't be felled by such meek efforts, and then proceedes to employ more power to his attacks. In this case where morals are off, he'll likely open with his maximum power, which I can see overwhelming Zeus and keeping him subdued and generally beaten until Zeus runs out of steam to protect himself or Valky uses too much power and has to stop. Either way, he'll still have his spirit haxx and could continue his attacks. Depending on what defines as a win, I think he'll have reached that marker by this time, and the only thing I can see stopping him before that point is Zeus somehow teleporting while defending against the onslaught and stabbing Valkorion with the BoO or banishing him to Tartarus.
The fact that they grapple each other and push each other back and forth in contests of physical strength? I mean, Kratos is stronger, but Zeus is obviously comparable enough to make him use all of his strength to overpower him, and there was even a point where Zeus pushed Kratos back about ten meters or so through sheer strength.
Originally posted by SunRazer
The fact that they grapple each other and push each other back and forth in contests of physical strength?
I mean, Kratos is stronger, but Zeus is obviously comparable enough to make him use all of his strength to overpower him,
and there was even a point where Zeus pushed Kratos back about ten meters or so through sheer strength.
Yeah, that's the same as Kratos' struggle with doors. But somehow I don't think that Kratos struggling with his greatest enemy is the same sort of PIS. You know, especially given that there's a QTE of sorts in the fight with Zeus in GoW III where they basically just push each other back and forth for a long while until Kratos overpowers Zeus.
Of course Valkorion isn't going to be brawling. My point was that I don't think he can use Deflection against Zeus' blade attacks.