Odin vs Mordru

Originally posted by beatboks
i wouldnt say that they are stupid but that they literally cant act independently outside the 5th dimension. when the JSA travelled to the 5th dimension and the Djinn were at war they had very few problems acting independently.

also Mxy is an Imp while Thunderbolt Djinn, different species and i dont think we can say with certainty that they are on the same level. afterall Kryptonians, Martians, daxamites, Durlans and humans are all different species of the same universe and dimension and vary substantially.

Qwsp is a 5d imp like Mxy, though. And Thunderbolt seemed to handle him allright, when he finally decided to act on his own.

But to your point about an inability to act outside the 5th dimension, that's why I question Mordru's feat. Jakeem's orders were aimed at banishing Mordru, so it's possible Thunderbolt just stood there and took it while getting attacked from inside the pen..

And on a different occasion, Thunderbolt did pwn Mordru pretty badly.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not saying that T-bolt didn't become more powerful--I just don't recall it being stated, is all. It has been a long time since I read that arc in depth, though, so I could definitely be misremembering.

If it wasn't stated anywhere, then it's hard for me to just assume his power doubled(or w/e) as a result of the merger. /shrug

Originally posted by cdtm
And fighting Glorith to a stalemate, who was Time Trapper +.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MNX3pgX5Ewc/VxSLBtyjSwI/AAAAAAAATOo/vn68PFGLxmYJWvWtvXpEkkF3tg0kBQoiQCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO044.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Just saw this:
*Half his power.

Originally posted by Galan007
Just saw this:
*Half his power.

Originally posted by cdtm
Until I thought about it. The fact is, Jakeem never actually told the thunderbolt to defend himself.

It's similar to what Mordru did against Shazam from within the Rock of Eternity(another of his extremely uber feats.)

Originally posted by cdtm
And 5d imps are very, very stupid. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007

It's similar to what Mordru did against Shazam from within the Rock of Eternity(another of his extremely uber feats.)

And let's not forget Mordru was weakened when he did that and Shazam was amped.

1. Shazam was completely unencumbered having given the task of restraining the seven deadly sins to another.
2. Shazam had spent some time building his power preparing for Spectre
3. Mordru had been imprisoned in the rock which played upon his greatest fear. The self same fear being the plot device that allowed the LoSH to defeat Mordu every time they faced him. Coming out of such a state is when Darkseid attacked and took his power in the Great Darkness Saga (of course the distraction of having a clone of Orion attack Mordru so he wasn't focused on the direct of Darkseid's attack didn't hurt either)

The fact is you still have to balance these high end showing against his low. Now admittedly Mordru doesn't have a LOT of low feats but they exist.

Example 1. His defeat at the hands of the Neophyte Lady Amethyst in his first Post COIE appearance. This defeat took place in Mordru's own place of power. Contextually it can be argued that Mordru was at his weakest at the time because he had JUST taken on the host of the gem world sorcerer (who's name eludes me ATM). We know from many other instances of Lords of Order taking on mortal hosts that it limits them ( Nabu's Egyptian body after centuries of use, Nabu in Kent Nelson's dead body, Shat-Ru in same body etc). It was after the defeat that Mordru then bonded the soul of the sorcerer he possessed to the host body to increase that limit and Amethyst never fared that well again.

By Contrast I can't think of too many lows for Odin. Odin sleep doesn't cut it as a low for me.

If someone can remind me of lows for Odin not as plot based as the Odin Sleep then I would have to change stance. I just can't think of any.

Odin was koed by an earthquake once.

easy win for Odin.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Sfl_rbv2DKA/Vnpm7gblr1I/AAAAAAAASNE/Kv3N3KR3ds4/s1600-Ic42/RCO003.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5-KoePAc9Fc/Vnpm8BJs9bI/AAAAAAAASNE/GOK9OyPthp4/s1600-Ic42/RCO004.jpg

😂

Originally posted by krisblaze
easy win for Odin.

ha-som

Correction, she was casually taken out by Blackheart who got his ass handed to him by Miles Morales.

Twice.

😂

Odin had some pretty low showings here and there, although some of them were from pretty crappy stories best forgotten.

Originally posted by Galan007

Lol, no. They most certainly are not.

Yes, they are. Mxy certainly is, as Superman's defeats of him proven over and over again. Hell,, Lex Luthor defeated him by lieing to his face, and an obvious one at that. And then you've got the embarressment called Emperor Joker..

As for other imps, Qwsp's brilliant plan was to bully D'jins. Once Thunderbolt realized he had free will, it unraveled everything. And the icing on the cake was Qwsp letting a mage walk up to him, cut him, and imprison him for his own use (The same mage kept saying how their power is only dwarfed by their stupidity)..

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Sfl_rbv2DKA/Vnpm7gblr1I/AAAAAAAASNE/Kv3N3KR3ds4/s1600-Ic42/RCO003.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5-KoePAc9Fc/Vnpm8BJs9bI/AAAAAAAASNE/GOK9OyPthp4/s1600-Ic42/RCO004.jpg

😂

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Interesting you consider a weakened Odin to be a "low showing".
Then again it's you after all. Right on cue as always.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Huh? What weakened Odin?

Later in the same issue he even commented on how his full strength has not yet returned.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Interesting you consider a weakened Odin to be a "low showing".
Then again it's you after all. Right on cue as always.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Err plot driven weakness.

Later in the same issue he even commented on how his full strength has not yet returned.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That can also happen after getting koed. Unless you have any specific scan of him being weakened beforehand, he doesn't randomly gets weakened.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That can also happen after getting koed. Unless you have any specific scan of him being weakened beforehand, he doesn't randomly gets weakened.

I should save this.

Again this shows your ability to pull scans without actually knowing what's going on.
clapclap

Btw he was poisoned.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
This is painful....
Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse. Oh the genius level logic being used here.
superdur

I should save this.

Again this shows your ability to pull scans without actually knowing what's going on.
clapclap

Btw he was poisoned.

The drugs they gave him weakened Odin in the comic where he was koed.

What a magnificent showing.

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Odin was koed by an earthquake once.

I f*cking knew Tesla had a reason he created that earthquake machine..