Originally posted by riv6672i always thought there should b some way to factor in the "genius" attribute for high level scientists, military chatacters, magic-users, Batman-esque strategists, etc. Characters whose minds give them an edge in some way, on top of any other abilities or traits they might have.
^^^Stop trying to make fetch happen. Its not going to happen.But i kind of agree.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That would make a Flash even MORE cautious, IMO.If you're facing a guy known for his trickery and traps...you probably won't want to rush into things, amirite? Especially where magic is concerned.
But Loki hasn't actually been given anytime to prep. So if Flash knows they are both going into this without any preparation then wouldn't the best move be to prevent Loki from being able to do anything as soon as the fight starts?
I mean you probably don't want to give Loki time to conjure up any mischief, right?
the question isn't can loki put flash down if he gets the chance--that answer is obvious. the question is WOULD he get a chance, and WHY would he? full powers in play, he wouldn't get a chance. loki might start something, then he'd become a statue to flash's pov, who'd also be thinking about billion billion times faster than loki can (insert scans of flash seeing all possible outcomes of a random situation and out-thinking a supercomputer).
this is the same outcome as 99% of all flash threads. he needs to be neutered or handicapped to win. you gotta be careful citing ooc as well--it wouldn't be ooc for him to simply ko loki. he doesn't need to kill him in the opening nano-second. ooc=/=pis or cis in this case. i think some are confusing that issue.
Originally posted by leonidas
the question isn't can loki put flash down if he gets the chance--that answer is obvious. the question is WOULD he get a chance, and WHY would he? full powers in play, he wouldn't get a chance. loki might start something, then he'd become a statue to flash's pov, who'd also be thinking about billion billion times faster than loki can (insert scans of flash seeing all possible outcomes of a random situation and out-thinking a supercomputer).this is the same outcome as 99% of all flash threads. he needs to be neutered or handicapped to win. you gotta be careful citing ooc as well--it wouldn't be ooc for him to simply ko loki. he doesn't need to kill him in the opening nano-second. ooc=/=pis or cis in this case. i think some are confusing that issue.
Don't have the scan ready, but the old Pre Crisis example of how effective high end speed is applies here
Mordru fires off a magic attack, and Superboy goes into action, crafting a time bubble from sand, putting the LOSH members in it, and sending them off into the timestream. All before the magic bolt hits the ground.
Wally, Barry, or any top tier speedster should be that fast. (And on an off topic note, makes you wonder how Mordru was even a threat in that era 🙂 )
Originally posted by leonidas
the question isn't can loki put flash down if he gets the chance--that answer is obvious. the question is WOULD he get a chance, and WHY would he? full powers in play, he wouldn't get a chance. loki might start something, then he'd become a statue to flash's pov, who'd also be thinking about billion billion times faster than loki can (insert scans of flash seeing all possible outcomes of a random situation and out-thinking a supercomputer).this is the same outcome as 99% of all flash threads. he needs to be neutered or handicapped to win. you gotta be careful citing ooc as well--it wouldn't be ooc for him to simply ko loki. he doesn't need to kill him in the opening nano-second. ooc=/=pis or cis in this case. i think some are confusing that issue.
Loki has too many tools.
If we can throw ideas around for Flash to act out in theory, we can do the same with Loki.
The difference is, Loki has more cards up his sleeve than the Flash has. More of a variety of abilities he can mix and match and since Flash is not immune to being tricked or out-thought, I still think this looks good for Loki.
And if I have to list all the things Loki can and HAS done, u dont know the character and shouldnt b betting against him anyway.