His experience during the Jedi purge would more likely be to get accommodated to the new suit and style, not necessarily improve from his ROTS self, who gutted one of the 10 most skilled swordsman in history like a pig and was arguably dominating the fight with Kenobi despite being emotionally compromised. Sas put it best: Dueling is Anakin's game, and he's the best at it.
With more time and experience I really don't see why he wouldn't have improved from his RotS self, especially when he has more actualized power to work with, and he's much more measured and intelligent as Vader. I agree the Jedi he fought during the Purge likely weren't grandiose in ability for the most part, but we don't really know for sure and he hardly has the same quality / explored opponents Anakin did to accurately compare the two using the "Anakin beat ____, what does Vader have that compares?" method. Vader might not fight the same as Anakin where he completely overwhelms in an instant, but that doesn't mean Anakin is better, IMO.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
With more time and experience I really don't see why he wouldn't have improved from his RotS self, especially when he has more actualized power to work with, and he's much more measured and intelligent as Vader.
Well again, that's all well and good that he has more, "actualized power" (Though I'm not sure how that one quote holds up against the litany of quotes calling Anakin the best ever, Yoda level, most powerful jedi ever, etc, in conjunction with Anakin's better saber feats) and is more intelligent, but he was still adapting to the new suit and re-tooling his style entirely. The experience would have sharpened his mind, not necessarily made him the effective equal of the fluid, acrobatic, and physically dominant Skywalker. ROTJ Luke, who ultimately has vastly less reserves than ROTS Anakin, was punking Vader after drawing on his anger, and was stalemating him throughout the fight.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
I agree the Jedi he fought during the Purge likely weren't grandiose in ability for the most part, but we don't really know for sure and he hardly has the same quality / explored opponents Anakin did to accurately compare the two using the "Anakin beat ____, what does Vader have that compares?" method.
I'd agree, but we do have ample comparison with both Ben Kenobi, (against who there are conflicting sources in regards to whether Vader was winning or if it was a stalemate,) and ROTJ Luke, (who's vastly less powerful than Anakin yet stalemated Vader, and he arguably had as much reason to hold back as his Father did.) Even if we go ahead and assume that Rebels Vader was more skilled by virtue of mental determination before knowing of the birth of his son, I don't think there's any evidence that Vader is legitimately a better swordsman than ROTS Anakin, who even in Rebels is implied to have been the best jedi warrior of the Clone Wars.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Vader might not fight the same as Anakin where he completely overwhelms in an instant, but that doesn't mean Anakin is better, IMO.
Okay, well if we're arguing by how long a fight lasts/lightsaber style, then I'd argue that Mace Windu's aggressive Vaapad compounded with Bulq's own aggression would certainly make a fight last less time than the, by your own implication, methodical, pick-you-apart style of Darth Vader.
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Not that I think Bulq wins this fight.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Friends Mace Windu was emotionally conflicted in his fight with Sora, its not a legit feat.On the other hand I really doubt he'd be as successful in stone-walling Maul. You've seen it? 🙂
He's a master of all lightsaber forms and was able to stonewall Mace in a duel. Why wouldn't he have the same effectiveness against Maul?
Originally posted by carthageBecause we can't expect Maul to suffer the same emotional hindrances?
He's a master of all lightsaber forms and was able to stonewall Mace in a duel. Why wouldn't he have the same effectiveness against Maul?
And Cin Drallig was a master of all seven forms as well, still got his shit pushed in by Anakin. That's not proof he can stalemate Maul.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZWhich only makes Ahsoka's performance more impressive. 🙂
Maul > Ahsoka, anyways. 🙂