Apocalypse & Horsemen vs Avengers

Originally posted by Trocity
Avengers die and quanchi cries.

Originally posted by Zack M
Magneto wins.

What's the fight location?

Iron Man, War Machine and Cap obviously instantly die from Magneto, but it's not as clear how they're supposed to hurt Hulk or Thor if we assume for the sake of argument that Magneto can't override the hammer. You could argue that Magneto could just use the metal of the fallen Avengers to win given the planetary scale of his control, but then he isn't able to do more than hurl some metal at sub-sonic speeds towards Apocalypse. Meanwhile, Magneto's teammates are fodder.

The Avengers might actually win this.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
hulk can be punched out by ironman so i imagine magneto could also generate enough force for that

That is a flawed logic ! you don't know the amount of Force that the Veronica punch can generate.

R.I.P avengers

Mjlonir goes up everyone's ass

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
That is a flawed logic ! you don't know the amount of Force that the Veronica punch can generate.

What's Veronica's best punching feat?

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
R.I.P avengers

Mjlonir goes up everyone's ass

Thor don't swing his hammer that way.

Originally posted by tkitna
The attack Magneto threw at Apoc would have kiled Hulk and Thor within seconds. Apoc barely noticed him as he was concentrating on Xavier. Besides that, why couldnt Apoc just turn them into dust as he did with so many others in the movie? Sorry, he plays on a level the Avengers couldnt hope to play on. They die and its spite in my eyes.

No it wouldn't. Magneto's attack, despite how spectacular it looked, was still done using earthly metals. We have no proof that those metals can actually injure Hulk or thor.

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
That is a flawed logic ! you don't know the amount of Force that the Veronica punch can generate.

Are you suggesting magneto can't make a chunck of metal at a similiar mass travel at a similiar velocity?

Originally posted by FrothByte
No it wouldn't. Magneto's attack, despite how spectacular it looked, was still done using earthly metals. We have no proof that those metals can actually injure Hulk or thor.

Chitauri lasers which even Cap tanked seem to put down Hulk just fine

Originally posted by carthage
Chitauri lasers which even Cap tanked seem to put down Hulk just fine

Cap got hit by a hand held rifle. And he didn't tank it. He was clearly hurt. Hulk got pummeled by multiple gliders. Also, those were Chitauri weapons. Not metals.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What's Veronica's best punching feat?

That's my point , we don't know , so we can't imply that magneto can put down Hulk because Veronica has punched him down.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Are you suggesting magneto can't make a chunck of metal at a similiar mass travel at a similiar velocity?

It also depends on the time frame of that hit (delta t) a punch will happen in a very little time but Magneto is about to move heavy bunch of metals so he needs time to get them to the desired velocity.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Are you suggesting magneto can't make a chunck of metal at a similiar mass travel at a similiar velocity?

You have to remember that HB didn't knock out Hulk by simply punching him. He knocked him out by dropping him hundreds of feet down through a building, blasting him with his rays all the time, with Hulk getting buried under piles of rubble, losing his rage blindness when he started seeing all the people fleeing in terror, then getting blindsided by that punch.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What's Veronica's best punching feat?

Thor don't swing his hammer that way.