1) Probably team in a hard fight. Tulak is somewhere in Luke's stratosphere, same with Nox. Kallig is outmatched, but the first two can match Luke on their own, with the third player on the field and more distraction for Luke, the team can win 6/10.
2) Team pretty decisively. I don't think prime Luke is far superior to Yoda, possibly a notch, and Tulak is probably a small notch beneath Yoda. Add in Nox and Kallig and it's pretty clear who wins. Team 8-9/10.
3) Pretty much the same as sabers, but Luke's force superiority narrows it down slightly. Team 7/10?
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Kallig and Hord were supposed to be rivals in power. Nox is a worthy heir to Hord, and that's after being amped by five ghosts to be sub-below Revan level.
Going by that logic, Nox is comparable to a guy who tore capital ships out of the sky and slaughtered armies of Jedi. So I guess Revan must be way the **** higher than you think.
It doesn't matter, Khem is the one "obviously" saying Nox is comparable to Hord and he thinks Hord did those things. He's been by Nox's side the whole story and his whole life is about fighting Force Users and being a warrior, so his judgement of Nox's skills at least is pretty dang reliable.
The Exile hasn't fought an actual army of them on the battlefield. Big difference.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
"you don't know..." that seems to be your problem, since it's your feat. 😆The Exile fought a very large concentration of dark jedi at the same time. Whether they called themselves an army is irrelevant.
My problem is you blatantly lying. Pulling a capital ship out of the air is massively impressive regardless of the speculation of him prepping. He'd have to overpower the engines holding it in the sky, a monstrous feat.
No, she didn't. She fought them in an academy, going from room to room and fighting them in groups. That's not a battlefield or an army sieging a stronghold.
Originally posted by Nephthys
My problem is you blatantly lying.
If he pulled it out of orbit, he would be manipulating it with significantly more time to spare than what Marek had.
Pulling a capital ship out of the air is massively impressive regardless of the speculation of him prepping. He'd have to overpower the engines holding it in the sky, a monstrous feat.
Prove that the engines were running. You don't need engines to keep a ship in orbit, lol.
No, she didn't. She fought them in an academy, going from room to room and fighting them in groups. That's not a battlefield or an army sieging a stronghold.
How does this change anything? There are only so many melee combatants that can surround and attack you at the same time; even Anakin and Obi Wan were sort of underperforming against Dooku from this basic reality.
And what makes you think that the Jedi were in some sort of formation optimized for fighting one combatant, rather than spread out around a settlement like they were conducting a siege...which they were? Literally the only difference is the presence of walls and doors.
How the **** would he pull a ship out of orbit? You can't even see things in orbit, lol. Also, if he did pull it out of orbit obviously the crew would have ample time to start the engines. Not that I have any idea where orbit is coming from. Orbit isn't exactly the sky, its space.
Jedi and Sith aren't just melee combatants. And by going from room to room it's doubtful they'd be able to surround you since you'd be attacking their positions. Going from room to room you're taking them on a bit at a time and can recover and heal. On a battlefield the Jedi could surround Hord and apply constant pressure, replacing dead Knights with new ones. And even if they were in camp they'd have more than enough time and opportunity to mass and attack.
Originally posted by Nephthys
How the **** would he pull a ship out of orbit? You can't even see things in orbit, lol.
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So Tulak needs line of sight to use his Force abilities? Thanks for the note, Tulak < ANH Luke confirmed.
Also, if he did pull it out of orbit obviously the crew would have ample time to start the engines. Not that I have any idea where orbit is coming from. Orbit isn't exactly the sky, its space.
It's not necessarily space, nor is the line between "sky" and "space" pretty clear, particularly when people are speaking colloquially. And you have no idea what condition the ship was in, what condition the crew was in, whether Tulak assaulted the crew first, etc.
Jedi and Sith aren't just melee combatants.
Which establishes a distinction...how? If anything it just removes it, because it's not like walls prevent people from using the Force.
And by going from room to room it's doubtful they'd be able to surround you since you'd be attacking their positions.
This doesn't make any sense. You're attacking their positions, but a room is still large enough that they could surround you to a sufficient capacity.
And by going from room to room you're taking them on a bit at a time and can recover and heal.
So it's a stamina feat, gotcha.
On a battlefield the Jedi could surround Hord and apply constant pressure, replacing dead Knights with new ones.
Why couldn't they do this against Traya? It's not like they weren't aware of her presence; they could easily crowd her in, the difference with there being walls is marginal, lol.
And even if they were in camp they'd have more than enough time and opportunity to mass and attack.
Whereas the korriban academy couldn't, because there were indestructible walls. 👆