Silver Surfer vs. World Breaker Hulk.

Started by StiltmanFTW13 pages

Surfer is all about empty boasts:

Originally posted by h1a8
I gave 2 reasons. If you destroy one of them then the other still lives. You must destroy both or you are simply reduced to nitpicking.

Your other reason was just the cliche "he doesn't normally do it so he won't". But you say he will use speed and reflexes, which is not something he does all the time either.

When you say he doesn't "think like people want him to" in this context that really just means he apparently has no interest in avoiding serious physical trauma or death.

Can you think of an in character reason why he would want to allow people to hit him? Being a pacifist doesn't make him also a masochist by default.

So great at avoiding h2h confrontations, Surfer is 🙂

Lots of characters with enhanced speed get hit. Flash has a villain that is just really good at throwing boomerangs.

Surfer has no combat speed, lol. Only travelling one.

And if he uses it to stay outside of Hulk's reach/t-clap range... welll... congrats Surfer, you just BFR'd yourself. Hulk wins. Again.

He can move his body at super speed and can react at super speed. I'm not sure why anything more then that needs to be said when it comes to avoiding an attack.

What is the range before you get BFR? Anyways, like I said..phasing. But then he apparently enjoys physical harm so he won't do that.

He has all these powers yet apparently the only thing he is allowed to do is punch people and fire energy blasts. That means Thor shouldn't be allowed to do anything with his hammer but throw it at people and shoot lightning.

Originally posted by Surtur
He can move his body at super speed

No.

Originally posted by Surtur
and can react at super speed.

Only when travelling on his board --- and said board is doing most of the work for him.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm not sure why anything more then that needs to be said when it comes to avoiding an attack.

than*

Originally posted by Surtur

What is the range before you get BFR? Anyways, like I said..phasing. But then he apparently enjoys physical harm so he won't do that.

Scans of him phasing? 🙂

Originally posted by Surtur
He has all these powers yet apparently the only thing he is allowed to do is punch people and throw energy blasts. That means Thor shouldn't be allowed to do anything with his hammer but throw it at people and shoot lightning.

He's supposed to be very versatile, just sucks at anything even remotely similar to a fight.

Why is that bad? Spider-Man can beat down Firelord and can fight the Hulk and the Juggernaut and just all around take hits from Class 100s.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No.

Well okay.

Only when travelling on his board --- and said board is doing most of the work for him.

Does he not have his board?

than*

then.

Scans of him phasing? 🙂

Do you not think he can phase? I don't keep Surfer scans handy.

He's supposed to be very versatile, just sucks at anything even remotely similar to a fight.

But again applying this logic then you would agree someone like Thor should be limited to just throwing the hammer and the occasional lightning bolt?

Surfer = a passenger on his own board 😂

As long as we apply low showings for all Marvel characters here from now on.

Originally posted by Surtur
As long as we apply low showings for all Marvel characters here from now on.
The problem here is not choice, but creativity. No one is arguing that Surfer will not choose to phase if he thought of it. We are arguing that he won't even think of it because he never has in a battle. .5km is battlefield distance. WBH could easily kill Surfer with a thunderclap from that distance. There is no escape. WBH thunderclaps before Surfer does anything exotic.

Originally posted by h1a8
The problem here is not choice, but creativity. No one is arguing that Surfer will not choose to phase if he thought of it. We are arguing that he won't even think of it because he never has in a battle. .5km is battlefield distance. WBH could easily kill Surfer with a thunderclap from that distance. There is no escape. WBH thunderclaps before Surfer does anything exotic.

What in character reason does he have to not use apparently the only ability that could save him? Who is the most durable person Hulk has killed by thunderclapping?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
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Did I say something in Klingon that you're not able to understand?

Originally posted by Surtur
What in character reason does he have to not use apparently the only ability that could save him? Who is the most durable person Hulk has killed by thunderclapping?

Because he knows he can take a hit.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Originally posted by Surtur
What in character reason does he have to not use apparently the only ability that could save him? Who is the most durable person Hulk has killed by thunderclapping?

An amped Rulk.

Originally posted by Surtur
What in character reason does he have to not use apparently the only ability that could save him? Who is the most durable person Hulk has killed by thunderclapping?
An astronomically weaker version one shot Rulk with a thunderclap.

Surfer doesn't know how powerful Hulk is.
Just like he didn't know how powerful Thanos or Odin, etc.
Even if Surfer did know then again he would still never think of it (since he never has while facing opponents he knows he has no chance agsinst).

Surfer lol'ed at Maestro's thunderclap.

Surfer HAS used soul suck in combat, it's not just a boast.

Originally posted by Magnon
Surfer lol'ed at Maestro's thunderclap.

Surfer HAS used soul suck in combat, it's not just a boast.

WBH is more than a trillion times more powerful than Maestro. And that Surfer was amped.

He soul sucked because his blasts were ineffective due to his opponent being intangible. WBH isn't intangible here, so Surfer won't think of it.
Also WBH can thunderclap before Surfer can activate that power.