Ah here it is: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t626917.html
It was JKBart
I am just rewriting one of my previous analysis, cause it was basically on the same subject...
By damned Act 2 Hero of Tython is already superior to Vader. Yes, by damned Act 2.
Even by then, HoT has bested Scourge after breaking through entire squads of Vitiate's defenders on his space station - he fought through immense numbers of Sith and their troopers, well above 80 in numbers.
Now, let's consider the fact that in Revan novel, Vitiate's mere presence amped his protectors - Imperial Guardsmen - to an extent so incredible, the accelerate Force flow prevented Revan from achieving devastating results with telekinetical attacks on non-sensitive Imperial Guardsmen. I see no reason to assume it was different here, but okay, that's just my speculation - let's not look at it. It's not even needed...
Even after all of this, HoT was capable of defeating Scourge - Scourge in his prime, who himself, 300 years before, could fight two of Guardsmen of such a level. This was novice Scourge, still learning about the Force from Nyriss and Revan. That novice Scourge defeated two Guardsmen of the Empire - Guardsmen that were so amped, they resisted TK attack from Revan himself... and, well, we are talking about a guy who can normally ragdoll someone on Satele Shan's tier along with two other Force wielders. Obviously Revan was a bit weakened there, but let's even say he was even two times weaker and in that state he could ragdoll Satele Shan only.
And the Guardsmen were so amped, they went from non-Sensitives at all to the ability of resisting a Force attack from a guy who can ragdoll fu*king Satele Shan.
I can't even start to think how their reflexes, speed, strength and stamina must have been amped. Force influence affects all of these along with natural Force defense coming from the Force's energy power within the people, as we all know. And Scourge still defeated two Guardsmen on that tier alone.
And that was Scourge who was still learning about the Force and had 300 years of practice.
And guess what? Hero of Tython, after breaking through half the space station full of Sith (that may even have been amped by Vitiate, as I noted) defeated Scourge. Simple as that. Kira Carsen's help can be dismissed, I believe - it quite obviously couldn't make up for clearing dozens of Sith on the way to Scourge...
I don't see how Darth Vader can win against Chapter 2 Hero of Tython. Talk about Force edge all you want, but that guy could already hold some resistance against Vitiate, and I don't think we need to talk about how many universes of power Vitiate is above Vader. Even if you don't buy it, HoT, a chapter later, could resist Vitiate's power long enough to cut him down with a saber. Sure, weakened Vitiate, but on a dark side nexus, after HoT had to break through literal armies of Sith and Vitiate's best protectors (I believe Vitiate isn't stupid and to be assigned as his guardsmen and protectors, you have to be pretty good). With a bit of thinking, I believe it's safe to say the gap between Chapter 2 HoT and Chapter 3 HoT isn't so large, that he wents from resisting Vitiate to being affected by Vader.
And now what we have is Arcann. Arcann who was fighting prime HoT on equal footing, and bested him with the Force.
Arcann is way above Vader in everything. Arcann is on a higher league, he is an equal to a combatant that would utterly stomp people already superior to Vader. With Force power, it's a joke. Arcann was capable of resisting Valkorion-amped Lightning, which is multiple leagues above Vader's best capabilities.
There is literally no way Vader has a chance of accomplishing anything in this fight, let alone even a 0,001% of winning.
Originally posted by FreshestSlicehe could deflect blaster fire, and with his SABER absorb it but... without it, he's in trouble but if his skills with tutaminis(cant spell it im sorry) are above what I believe is there anyway you can point me in the right direction for it(link or something)?
Vader can still block lightning, so...