DCNU Doomsday vs Thor

Started by celeyhyga178 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Kill everyone in Phantom Zone except a few individuals.

Yeah, he beat the shit out of Mongul and Non together who were holding a rift in time and space which was about to destroy the entire phantom zone in their weakened state.

By punching him obviously.

None of them were powerless. Powerless people burst into flames just by Doomsday being near them.


Who did he kill in the PZ?

How did he beat the shiet out of Mongul and Non? Do you have scans? How strong was Non when DD "beat the shiet" out of him?

Other than using Kryptonian gear, Non and other Kryptonians in PZ wouldn't really have powers to the level of Superman if we follow common sense right?

Where is your proof they had powers? Non trying to help Mongul(which they failed miserably btw) is not proof he has super powers. That's like someone claiming batman has super powers because he can force Superman backwards with a kick.



Like I said, this phantom zone doesn't works like that. Superman overpowered Xa-Du from inside Phantom Zone.

http://i.imgur.com/fK1ivmg.jpg
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We are not talking about Superman here. How did these Kryptonians you claim that DD killed in the PZ gain super powers?



Right where it is needed.

Sorry, I don't read your bitching twice.

Yes, he had. Kryptonians don't lose their powers in Phantom Zone.


That's some track record for beating a bunch of fodder powerless Kryptonians. Lol...



It is. Nowhere near as impressive as Doomsday in a weaker state breaking both of her arms in one hit.

Why not? And why is making his head dent just a little bit more impressive than breaking both her arms?


Don't put words in my mouth. Never said it was more impressive. Point is he put a big dent on the skull of one of the most durable high heralds in comics.

Btw you do know that I'm merely humoring you on this ridiculously idiotic stipulation right?



That only works against your logic. Can Thor do that? I highly doubt it.

Fight of multiple high tier beings? Of course. Why wouldn't he be able to when he's done it more than once.



Maybe for idiots. Damaging class 100 characters like breaking bones is always more impressive.

Did you have a stroke while typing this?

Bwahahaha, oh the delusions.


Your opinion. Fortunately I've cited ample proof that it's well within his capabilities to do so.

Typing on smartphone for a majority of this thread.

Yes. It's clear why you are still sticking to this ridiculous stipulation.



Haha, tell us more about how Doomsday doesn't has energy draining.

Hahaha, oh now your words supersede the comics?

This idiot here.

Hahaha, this is just golden. Thor is not this and that and that's why Doomsday can't affect him.

Compelling argument as always.


Already explained to you what his aura does. It breaks down living and non living materials which he eventually draws in. That is why he slowly increased in size. He doesn't have the more conventional means of energy drain like a Parasite or Pluto for example. Plus if you have considerable superhuman durability/damage soak like a Wonder Woman for example, you can at least fight long enough to survive that toxic aura. Even steel who probably is a tier or two below didn't just disintegrate like a normal human or inanimate object when he was in extremely close proximity to DD. And again stop putting words in my mouth. I never said Thor could not be affected. What idiot would say that? I stated that Thor has the durability/damage soak to endure the toxic aura long enough to put some considerable hurt on DD.



On average he is right there with her. He may have some feats higher than her, but he has also far lower lows.

I doubt he can do this in strength.

http://s477.photobucket.com/user/fangirl102/media/fangirl102012/WW1_zpsecrcweh1.jpg.html
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Regular portrayals he may be in the same tier. Average wise he is not based on his history. That's just how it is.

Very impressive feat for her btw(though they were acting in less than optimal conditions). Thor is not without similar feats.

Overpowers countless clones of himself that were created using his molecular template.
http://i.imgur.com/CojHhZP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZMyJbpe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8MqXe2Q.jpg

Powers through Hela's servants that included Majeston Zelia, Forsung, Bor, Desaak, and Skurge. This lineup alone is scary.
http://i.imgur.com/7ky3MVX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rIr9kEH.jpg



She never did. A weaker Doomsday with no energy draining stomped her and crippled her in three hits.

Thor would take maybe one or two more hits.


Sure she did. In her second encounter with DD when Clark finally arrived, she was about to go further except DD ported away. Heck she tangled with Superdoom a couple of times and looked to be in good shape.



Pluto dropped him in one page when he drained him.

Yes, demogorge totally dissolved his body and only his spirit could do anything because it wasn't his time to die.

So yeah, neither of those show anything remotely comparable to Thor resisting draining.

A similar being like Doomsday, Star Stalker dropped Thor in one page too.


Pluto is skyfather lite at times. Yes he drained him in one instance, but failed in other instances when Thor got serious.

Demogorge did not dissolve his body. Reading incomprehension for the loss. Even with "tired limbs", he endured and had the strength to rip the tendrils inside Demogorge. A feat which other gods failed. Even powerful hell lords like Mephisto, Pluto, Seth, and Hela could not do what he did. It's a tremendous feat no matter how much it hurts your butt.
http://i.imgur.com/SnZ8VZi.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/pJvYnDR.jpg



Concession accepted.

Sure it doesn't.


Sorry but that scan is pretty lulzworthy.



Pluto has never done that to Thor again.

Which was the reason given in the comic.

Because it was their time to die as they had shifted cosmic axis.

It was the time for Death Gods to die as they had merged their realms and shifted cosmic axis.
Anyway only Thor's spirit resisted Demogorge. His body was dissolved.

Doomsday isn't fighting Thor's spirit here.


Abhi. Get your facts straight. One of Pluto's go to moves is energy drain when he touches you(usually around the vicinity of your face). It almost mirrors another death god's(Hela) very own death touch.

Thor has outright resisted other attempts by Pluto.

Originally posted by ODG

Thor vs Pluto rematch, from Thor #201:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsPluto06.jpg
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsPluto09.jpg

Thor vs Pluto again, from Thor #223:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsPluto10Thor223.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsPluto11.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsPluto12.jpg

He's done it to Hercules.

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Again... As I've already explained. Thor's body did not dissolve. He resisted the metabolic process was able to rip through the energy draining process which other gods failed to do.
I ask again. If it wasn't Thor's time to die, why was he the only vessel in which escape from the Demogorge possible? You attributing this feat solely on his fate is idiotic. Other gods were the beneficiary of his strength and endurance. Again it is similar to Orion punching through Darkseid's chest. Though it is fated for him to slay his father, it does not cancel out his feat.



Haha, this again? How many times are you going to argue Doomsday doesn't has a draining power?

Read above.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, thse two were done right after.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-d6YnbVciyM4/VvT7cgOHPSI/AAAAAAAABys/6lKLLDyzV0QnnZBKLG-OcoK6Du1GJglJwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO020.jpg
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She was never koed.


Err... First scan shows she was at least flash ko'd. And why did you post something I already showed?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Along with entire JLA. Not a low showing.

y appearance.


Who said it was? It was'nt quite low, but not such a great showing. Here again your claim.

She literally has no bad showings in DCnU. She has gone up against every top tier in DC and either stalemated them or beat them. Its like Blue Marvel who you marvel fans keep in such high spirits.

You once again are wrong.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not a straight fight. He suckered both her and Superman. Later Diana was beating his ass straight up.

Lol.. Not going to look good for you if I post her two fights against him.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That minotaur was beating everyone too. She also knocked him out as a teen after he dazed himself and then beat him in one page.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hpXS3mrbFKU/VnjDk307YII/AAAAAAAARaY/h9jciiT80YY/s1600-Ic42/RCO014.jpg


Again... I mentioned because of your false claim.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, what? Now losing to First Born is a low showing? He will punk Thor the same way. First Born was a beast.

Please read again your ridiculous claim. Never said FB was a low showing.

Originally posted by abhilegend

You have a funny way of interpreting scans, she was never taken out. Thor has been koed by a single bolt of lightning before.

That's not a low showing.


For her level, getting taken out by a gas line explosion certainly is.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Nothing. Just musing.

Again.. Pre fp DD is irrelevant here.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Superman Doomed 1 and Action Comics 31.

Wtf?! He just fought a long drawn out battle with DD. Plus he sucked in the toxic aura that DD was outputting even after his death. And he did fly in AC #31. Diana helped him briefly, but he flew away under his own power. That's not because of DD draining him.

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, he can't. Thor isn't strong enough to do that.

He can burn him but that would do nothing to Doomsday who would just heal.


Why not? If he's serious he can.

Easily puts a gaping hole through a massively amped Thing(Angrir).
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/thor-vs-nul-and-angrir-4.jpg

Easily incinerates an amped Ulik(Tanarus).
http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/thorvstaun05_zpsce3153fb.jpg.html
http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/thorvstaun06_zpscb20612a.jpg.html

Lightning/godblasts Durok.
http://i.imgur.com/gdgbKt6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ku5jg3F.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend

You mean you bitched about it?

Yes, feats over statements. Beating Wonder Woman like that is Superman level.


Not quite since he got ripped in two.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Meaningless. Its clearly stated that it wasn't Ymir but just an Ice Shell.

Second is also meaningless. What are you trying to do here?

Yes, he destroyed his shell which was made of Ice. Congrats. Thor can break ice.


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Ymir has demonstrated in the past that destroying his shell won't easily beat him since he's easily reformed. He is an elemental force and beyond just physical. But in this case Thor's attack sent him packing.

Originally posted by abhilegend

There is no guessing. Its the character's one and onl

Keep guessing.

Thor FTW.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Who did he kill in the PZ?

Everyone save a few survivors.

How did he beat the shiet out of Mongul and Non? Do you have scans? How strong was Non when DD "beat the shiet" out of him?

So now just being idiotic? Next you would ask how strong Mongul was?

Non was powerful enough to contain the rift along with Mongul which was going to destroy the phantom zone if left unchecked.

Other than using Kryptonian gear, Non and other Kryptonians in PZ wouldn't really have powers to the level of Superman if we follow common sense right?

No kryptonian has the power level of Superman.

He was strong enough to help Mongul keep the rift in time space in check.

Where is your proof they had powers? Non trying to help Mongul(which they failed miserably btw) is not proof he has super powers.

Of course it does. The sheer energy was potent enough to destroy phantom zone and earth.

That's like someone claiming batman has super powers because he can force Superman backwards with a kick.

What a pathetic attempt to downplay. Seriously?

We are not talking about Superman here. How did these Kryptonians you claim that DD killed in the PZ gain super powers?

So Superman retained their powers but somehow others didn't?

GTFO.

That's some track record for beating a bunch of fodder powerless Kryptonians. Lol...

He beat everyone in his path. What else do you want for a character to do? It wasn't like he beat random characters. This downplay is just pathetic.

Don't put words in my mouth. Never said it was more impressive. Point is he put a big dent on the skull of one of the most durable high heralds in comics.

So basically nothing compared to what Doomsday did in a weaker state? Good.

Btw you do know that I'm merely humoring you on this ridiculously idiotic stipulation right?

BTW, do you know I'm always amused at your pathetic excuses for Thor?

Fight of multiple high tier beings? Of course. Why wouldn't he be able to when he's done it more than once.

Not with the dominance of Doomsday.

Your opinion. Fortunately I've cited ample proof that it's well within his capabilities to do so.

Typing on smartphone for a majority of this thread.

Haha, more excuses. Good, good.

Yes. It's clear why you are still sticking to this ridiculous stipulation.

Because its relevant and not like your pathetic downplay?

Already explained to you what his aura does. It breaks down living and non living materials which he eventually draws in. That is why he slowly increased in size. He doesn't have the more conventional means of energy drain like a Parasite or Pluto for example.

Hahaha, this is such an idiotic and stubborn way to ignore what is on panel, its really astounding.

Plus if you have considerable superhuman durability/damage soak like a Wonder Woman for example, you can at least fight long enough to survive that toxic aura.

She was immediately on fire and her sword disintegrated in moments.

Even steel who probably is a tier or two below didn't just disintegrate like a normal human or inanimate object when he was in extremely close proximity to DD.

Steel survived exactly twenty three seconds with Doomsday and suffered major molecular decay. He was also wearing an organic steel armor which disintegrated immediately.

So , no that's not a relevant showing.

And again stop putting words in my mouth. I never said Thor could not be affected. What idiot would say that? I stated that Thor has the durability/damage soak to endure the toxic aura long enough to put some considerable hurt on DD.

There is nothing he can do which would slow down Doomsday much.

Regular portrayals he may be in the same tier. Average wise he is not based on his history. That's just how it is.

No, that's not how it works. Average wise she is right there with him at this point. She has literally bound her powers in check via her bracers.

Very impressive feat for her btw(though they were acting in less than optimal conditions). Thor is not without similar feats.

I'd like to see where Thor overpowers several top tiers at once.

Overpowers countless clones of himself that were created using his molecular template.
http://i.imgur.com/CojHhZP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZMyJbpe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8MqXe2Q.jpg

Clones without his powers. They may be made from his template but nothing shows they were actually having his powers.

Powers through Hela's servants that included Majeston Zelia, Forsung, Bor, Desaak, and Skurge. This lineup alone is scary.
http://i.imgur.com/7ky3MVX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rIr9kEH.jpg

Hahaha, those are the dead animated by Hela. There is zero proof that they had their powers. That's just pathetic.

Sure she did. In her second encounter with DD when Clark finally arrived, she was about to go further except DD ported away.

No, she didn't. She was immediately on fire and Doomsday ran away from Superman.

Heck she tangled with Superdoom a couple of times and looked to be in good shape.

Superman was suppressing Doomsday's spores at those times.

Pluto is skyfather lite at times. Yes he drained him in one instance, but failed in other instances when Thor got serious.

Point me to a time where Pluto actually uses it and it fails.

Demogorge did not dissolve his body. Reading incomprehension for the loss.

Haha, sure. And all those gods were literally inside him with their bodies. Do you really know anything about Demogorge?

He disintegrated the form of every god he absorbed.

Even with "tired limbs", he endured and had the strength to rip the tendrils inside Demogorge. A feat which other gods failed. Even powerful hell lords like Mephisto, Pluto, Seth, and Hela could not do what he did. It's a tremendous feat no matter how much it hurts your butt.
http://i.imgur.com/SnZ8VZi.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/pJvYnDR.jpg

Hahaha, that's just laughable. Keep digging. Its funny as heck.

Sorry but that scan is pretty lulzworthy.

Your entire posting history is lulzworthy.

Abhi. Get your facts straight. One of Pluto's go to moves is energy drain when he touches you(usually around the vicinity of your face). It almost mirrors another death god's(Hela) very own death touch.

Except Pluto never used it against Thor again after thor 200. I'd like a scan where he did that.

Thor has outright resisted other attempts by Pluto.

Pluto never did it to Thor again.

He's done it to Hercules.

Why don't you post the large scan where he used it against Thor and he resisted it?


Again... As I've already explained. Thor's body did not dissolve. He resisted the metabolic process was able to rip through the energy draining process which other gods failed to do.

Hahaha, he was specefically absorbed alongside other gods. His form was disintegrated. Just like other gods.

I ask again. If it wasn't Thor's time to die, why was he the only vessel in which escape from the Demogorge possible?

He didn't escape. He just caused enough trouble that Demogorge let him and others go. Did you even read the comic?

You attributing this feat solely on his fate is idiotic. Other gods were the beneficiary of his strength and endurance.

The other gods except Thor weren't that powerful as thor. The death gods do not count.

Again it is similar to Orion punching through Darkseid's chest. Though it is fated for him to slay his father, it does not cancel out his feat.

Of course it does. He was already amped by Source as it is.

Read above.
I only see gibberish. What is to read?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Err... First scan shows she was at least flash ko'd. And why did you post something I already showed?

No, she wasn't. You showed it like he was beating her again after she woke up.

Sh was never taken out.

Who said it was? It was'nt quite low, but not such a great showing. Here again your claim.

She literally has no bad showings in DCnU. She has gone up against every top tier in DC and either stalemated them or beat them. Its like Blue Marvel who you marvel fans keep in such high spirits.

Yes, she hasn't lost to a top tier. How does getting blasted and pinned down with lightning alongwith Superman getting beaten?

You once again are wrong.

What an idiot.

Lol.. Not going to look good for you if I post her two fights against him.

Well, go ahead.

Again... I mentioned because of your false claim.

Yeah, that's again idiotic.

Please read again your ridiculous claim. Never said FB was a low showing.

I claimed about top tiers. FB wasn't a top tier.

For her level, getting taken out by a gas line explosion certainly is.

Well, she wasn't taken out. There is that.

Again.. Pre fp DD is irrelevant here.

We will see in a few months.

Wtf?! He just fought a long drawn out battle with DD. Plus he sucked in the toxic aura that DD was outputting even after his death. And he did fly in AC #31. Diana helped him briefly, but he flew away under his own power. That's not because of DD draining him.

Yes, all that drained him. He can get back at full power by resting. He was knocked out after that fight.

Why not? If he's serious he can.

Easily puts a gaping hole through a massively amped Thing(Angrir).
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/thor-vs-nul-and-angrir-4.jpg

Not by his strength. Mjolnir's returning enchantment. Doomsday can heal from that though. Diana skewered him clean and he got back up like nothing happened.

Easily incinerates an amped Ulik(Tanarus).
http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/thorvstaun05_zpsce3153fb.jpg.html
http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/thorvstaun06_zpscb20612a.jpg.html

😂

Ulik? You might as well post Thor beating any class 95 character.

Lightning/godblasts Durok.
http://i.imgur.com/gdgbKt6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ku5jg3F.jpg

Quite literally the biggest adrenaline surge Thor could get by seeing asgard getting murdered in front of him.

Its like claiming Superman would just rip apart anyone since he did that to Doomsday.

Not quite since he got ripped in two.

Superman has dynamic strength. Just before that he was getting manhandled like nothing.

That's beyond Thor's power.

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Ymir has demonstrated in the past that destroying his shell won't easily beat him since he's easily reformed. He is an elemental force and beyond just physical. But in this case Thor's attack sent him packing.

Hahaha, so breaking Ice is such a great feat for Thor?

Keep guessing.

Don't need to. It was a random character never seen before or after.

Thor gets his ass beat here. Deal with it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Everyone save a few survivors.

So now just being idiotic? Next you would ask how strong Mongul was?

Non was powerful enough to contain the rift along with Mongul which was going to destroy the phantom zone if left unchecked.

No kryptonian has the power level of Superman.

He was strong enough to help Mongul keep the rift in time space in check.
Of course it does. The sheer energy was potent enough to destroy phantom zone and earth.

What a pathetic attempt to downplay. Seriously?


So now you went from killing all to actually not all because there were survivors......

Why would I ask how strong Mongul was? What a dumb question.. There are clear examples of how strong he may be. What you seem to run away from is how strong Non and the fodder Kryptonians were.

No one said they are on the level of Superman.
Did these Kryptonians in the PZ have Superman like powers due to receiving sunlight similar to earth's sun?

Lol the rift. So you are saying Non is near Superman at that point even though the only time he's felt the sensation of receiving super powers was when he briefly escaped the PZ? Which chronologically, happened after the rift scene?
hysterical

Can't really downplay something that doesn't merit it.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So Superman retained their powers but somehow others didn't?
GTFO.

What powers did Non and the fodder Kryptonians have to begin with. I have a feeling you will answer with another smokescreen.. And will you quit it with this fake tirade? We all know why you're doing it.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He beat everyone in his path. What else do you want for a character to do? It wasn't like he beat random characters. This downplay is just pathetic.

Again.. Fake tirade. Stop running from the question. Come on be a man. Be confident...

Originally posted by abhilegend

So basically nothing compared to what Doomsday did in a weaker state? Good.

BTW, do you know I'm always amused at your pathetic excuses for Thor?


Lol no. It's proof that in battle, he can damage high tier beings.

Yes. Idiotic stipulation. But let's continue.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Not with the dominance of Doomsday.

Haha, more excuses. Good, good.

Because its relevant and not like your pathetic downplay?


So first Thor goes from can't fight off multiple high tier beings to "he can, but not with dominance of DD"...
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Goalposts much? And yes he can and he has....

Double posts is a thing now? Stick to the issue. Stop it with your smokescreens.

Again... It is a ridiculous stipulation(even though he can) considering Thor has an array of abilities at his disposal other than using his fists to punch.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, this is such an idiotic and stubborn way to ignore what is on panel, its really astounding.

She was immediately on fire and her sword disintegrated in moments.

Steel survived exactly twenty three seconds with Doomsday and suffered major molecular decay. He was also wearing an organic steel armor which disintegrated immediately.

So , no that's not a relevant showing.


Lol... You can't even properly interpret stories. Show me DD draining the energy from a Wonder Woman level being the same way Pluto did. This I gotta see.

And yet she was still fighting. Her sword is kinda weak btw. Not really the most durable thing out there as I've proven in another thread.

Steel is a few notches below Thor, Wondy, and Supes and still he was able to hang on and did not just fully disintegrate like a normal human or object.

Originally posted by abhilegend

There is nothing he can do which would slow down Doomsday much.

No, that's not how it works. Average wise she is right there with him at this point. She has literally bound her powers in check via her bracers.


Lol... Right... Because DD has such an incredible track record like killing fodder powerless Kryptonians and getting ripped in half a la Ares.
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Average wise she doesn't stack up. If you want to come prove it in a bz you are welcome to try.

Originally posted by abhilegend

I'd like to see where Thor overpowers several top tiers at once.

Clones without his powers. They may be made from his template but nothing shows they were actually having his powers.

Hahaha, those are the dead animated by Hela. There is zero proof that they had their powers. That's just pathetic.


I'd like to see DD and Wondy do the same.

Doesn't matter. He overpowered a ton of clones made from his molecular template.

And? Do you want me to give you examples of what some of her named dead army has done? Trust me it won't look good for you if you keep going at this specific point.
Let me read the names again. Majeston Zelia, Forsung, Bor, Desaak, Skurge....

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, she didn't. She was immediately on fire and Doomsday ran away from Superman.

Superman was suppressing Doomsday's spores at those times.


And? She was still going strong and about to go rounds. And it didn't run from Superman. Lol...

Originally posted by abhilegend

Point me to a time where Pluto actually uses it and it fails.

Except Pluto never used it against Thor again after thor 200. I'd like a scan where he did that.

Pluto never did it to Thor again.

Why don't you post the large scan where he used it against Thor and he resisted it?


He doesn't like to touch faces for fun you oaf.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsPluto06.jpg.html

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsPluto08.jpg.html

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsPluto11.jpg.html

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, sure. And all those gods were literally inside him with their bodies. Do you really know anything about Demogorge?
https://postimg.org/image/um1ia105j/

He disintegrated the form of every god he absorbed.

Hahaha, that's just laughable. Keep digging. Its funny as heck.

He didn't escape. He just caused enough trouble that Demogorge let him and others go. Did you even read the comic?

The other gods except Thor weren't that powerful as thor. The death gods do not count.


Again... He stopped the metabolic process of Demogorge. A feat which Mephisto, Seth, Pluto, Hela could not replicate. And if you want to get technical, only his "outer trappings" disintegrated. And you don't want me to tell you how powerful these four alone are. You are the absolute worst at scans. My god...
Here again Thor is seen physicallyripping the innards of Demogorge as his teammates are unable to do anything and being drained of life.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Demogorge did not dissolve his body. Reading incomprehension for the loss. Even with "tired limbs", he endured and had the strength to rip the tendrils inside Demogorge. A feat which other gods failed. Even powerful hell lords like Mephisto, Pluto, Seth, and Hela could not do what he did. It's a tremendous feat no matter how much it hurts your butt.
http://i.imgur.com/SnZ8VZi.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/pJvYnDR.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend

Your entire posting history is lulzworthy.

Yes please post the scan again. I need a good laugh.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Of course it does. He was already amped by Source as it is.

I only see gibberish. What is to read?


Where was he amped by the Source here when he fought DS. DC's own explanation had something to do with their battle happened in different planes of existence or some such(can't fully remember). Pretty sure this fight is separate from DoTNG.

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celeyhyga17 is putting on a clinic. Nice job celey.

Talk about 'king troll' getting bottom

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, she wasn't. You showed it like he was beating her again after she woke up.

Sh was never taken out.


On the ground moaning.
http://oi68.tinypic.com/2yov39h.jpg

Then owned further without a sign of recovering.
http://oi67.tinypic.com/2m65x85.jpg
http://oi67.tinypic.com/wugni8.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, she hasn't lost to a top tier. How does getting blasted and pinned down with lightning alongwith Superman getting beaten?

What an idiot.

Well, go ahead.

Yeah, that's again idiotic.

I claimed about top tiers. FB wasn't a top tier.


Of course she has. Wtf is Ocean Master, Less Than A Man(owned Orion), DD...?

You claimed she has no lows. Proven wrong. You claimed she has beaten all to tiers she has faced. Wrong again.

Stop putting the proverbial foot in the mouth.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Well, she wasn't taken out. There is that.

Read above.

Originally posted by abhilegend

We will see in a few months.

Irrelevant.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, all that drained him. He can get back at full power by resting. He was knocked out after that fight.

He was exhausted and he was hurt. You got caught lying again about not being able to fly.. Lol.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Not by his strength. Mjolnir's returning enchantment. Doomsday can heal from that though. Diana skewered him clean and he got back up like nothing happened.

😂
Ulik? You might as well post Thor beating any class 95 character.


And? He can't use Mjolnir now in this fight? Sure he can heal, but a little stab wound does not equal a big @$$ gaping hole made by a big @$$ hammer.

Yes. Ulik amped by a Mjolnir type weapon. Seriously?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Quite literally the biggest adrenaline surge Thor could get by seeing asgard getting murdered in front of him.

Its like claiming Superman would just rip apart anyone since he did that to Doomsday.


Lol... And Superman wasn't in dire straits when he killed Doomsday? Lol...

Hey.. Seeing as Thor will recognize the type of threat DD poses, yes he will resort to killing.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Superman has dynamic strength. Just before that he was getting manhandled like nothing.

That's beyond Thor's power.


Seriously? You ran in the other thread and now you want to bring this up here?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, so breaking Ice is such a great feat for Thor?

Don't need to. It was a random character never seen before or after.

Thor gets his ass beat here. Deal with it.


No. Hurting a skyfather type being with enough power that it sends him packing and licking his wounds in Jotunheim is.

Afraid to guess I see...

Originally posted by Mr Master
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celeyhyga17 is putting on a clinic. Nice job celey.

Talk about 'king troll' getting bottom


He's owning himself.

I'm not even debating. I'm merely pointing out all the times he puts his foot in his mouth.

abhidur

Haha, you really are a glutton for punishment.

Good to know.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So now you went from killing all to actually not all because there were survivors......

Where did I say that there were no survivors? Mongul and Non were shown to be alive in the scans I posted after all.

Why would I ask how strong Mongul was? What a dumb question.. There are clear examples of how strong he may be. What you seem to run away from is how strong Non and the fodder Kryptonians were.

Strong enough to weather the energy rift which was about to destroy entire earth.

No one said they are on the level of Superman.
Did these Kryptonians in the PZ have Superman like powers due to receiving sunlight similar to earth's sun?

That's not made clear. But they do have enough power to beat the shit out of Phantom Stranger and crucify him.

http://i.imgur.com/4STdNl5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QPKhLn2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fXXaANv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3KdKIVD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fd9VVGN.jpg

Later three of them were seen taking on Stranger as well.

Lol the rift. So you are saying Non is near Superman at that point even though the only time he's felt the sensation of receiving super powers was when he briefly escaped the PZ? Which chronologically, happened after the rift scene?

Haha, I really don't know what's more pathetic. Your circular reasoning or your insistence that the kryptonians did not have powers.

Keep it up.

Can't really downplay something that doesn't merit it.

Of course you can.

What powers did Non and the fodder Kryptonians have to begin with. I have a feeling you will answer with another smokescreen.. And will you quit it with this fake tirade? We all know why you're doing it.

Superstrength, Superspeed and shit like usual.

I'd like to see where they are stated to be powerless.

Again.. Fake tirade. Stop running from the question. Come on be a man. Be confident...

Haha, oh the delusions.

Lol no. It's proof that in battle, he can damage high tier beings.

So can every herald worth his salt.

Yes. Idiotic stipulation. But let's continue.

Keep running from a simple question. Its really amusing you trying to hop it away.

So first Thor goes from can't fight off multiple high tier beings to "he can, but not with dominance of DD"...

You are basically inventing something which I never said.

Goalposts much? And yes he can and he has....

Like when?

Double posts is a thing now? Stick to the issue. Stop it with your smokescreens.

Haha, oh the butthurt. You screwed up. Own up to it.

Again... It is a ridiculous stipulation(even though he can) considering Thor has an array of abilities at his disposal other than using his fists to punch.

SO yo conceded that Thor is weaker than even the weakest version of this doomsday.

Good, good.

Lol... You can't even properly interpret stories. Show me DD draining the energy from a Wonder Woman level being the same way Pluto did. This I gotta see.

I can do better than that. Superman was himself brought to his knees by just a brief exposure.

http://i.imgur.com/bmVgIM4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CZ8Ma7p.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F5d0uF7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FVG3UVy.jpg

And New 52 Superman is vastly more powerful than even pre flashpoint Superman who he oneshotted in a weakened state.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592345/Superman_2011-_052-014.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592357/Superman_2011-_052-015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592382/Superman_2011-_052-016.jpg.html

Insanely impressive as Superman is back at full power after Truth ended as per Dan Jurgens.

https://twitter.com/thedanjurgens/status/743479302646177792

Doomsday was manhandling him like nothing at that point.

And yet she was still fighting. Her sword is kinda weak btw. Not really the most durable thing out there as I've proven in another thread.

No, she wasn't. His poison brought Superman to his knees in a few pages.

Steel is a few notches below Thor, Wondy, and Supes and still he was able to hang on and did not just fully disintegrate like a normal human or object.

So just repeating yourself now, eh?

Lol... Right... Because DD has such an incredible track record like killing fodder powerless Kryptonians and getting ripped in half a la Ares.

New 52 Superman would rip Thor in half as well if he went all out. You are not getting how ridiculously overpowered he was.

Even a portion of his power was enough to oneshot Diana and Supergirl twice.

He can stalemate a powered up Darkseid in energy blasts while dying and shrug off attacks from Mobius which were killing Lanterns left and right and killed Ultraman straight up.

He was straight up more powerful than entire Justice League combined.

Average wise she doesn't stack up. If you want to come prove it in a bz you are welcome to try.

Of course she does. Even you admitted she was a peer. Now backtracking again I see.

Heck, she was taking attacks from a powered up Darkseid just fine just recently in Darkseid war.

I'd like to see DD and Wondy do the same.

Diana already did.

Doesn't matter. He overpowered a ton of clones made from his molecular template.

None were stated to be superstrong.

And? Do you want me to give you examples of what some of her named dead army has done? Trust me it won't look good for you if you keep going at this specific point.

Bor wasn't under her control at that point.

Let me read the names again. Majeston Zelia, Forsung, Bor, Desaak, Skurge....

None of them had their powers. Not like Thor oevrpowered them either. He jumped at Hela in between of them kicking the shit out of him.

Diana explicitly held all of league in check and flung them all away after matching them.

And? She was still going strong and about to go rounds. And it didn't run from Superman. Lol...

Wut? Lex straight up said Doomsday ran from Superman.

He doesn't like to touch faces for fun you oaf.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsPluto06.jpg.html

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsPluto08.jpg.html

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsPluto11.jpg.html

Haha, oh you fool. He wasn't trying to drain Thor there. He even goes all "fight with honor" and beat Thor down with his fists.

Again... He stopped the metabolic process of Demogorge. A feat which Mephisto, Seth, Pluto, Hela could not replicate.

No, he didn't.

And if you want to get technical, only his "outer trappings" disintegrated. And you don't want me to tell you how powerful these four alone are. You are the absolute worst at scans. My god...
Here again Thor is seen physicallyripping the innards of Demogorge as his teammates are unable to do anything and being drained of life.

Hahaha, somehow Demogorge is disintegrating the bodies of everyone he drained but ate Thor whole.

This denial is just pathetic.

Yes please post the scan again. I need a good laugh.

Hahaha, oh the delusions.

Where was he amped by the Source here when he fought DS. DC's own explanation had something to do with their battle happened in different planes of existence or some such(can't fully remember). Pretty sure this fight is separate from DoTNG.

At the end of DONG Source dispatched him to kill Darkseid. By Editorial **** up he appeared as before but the story in Countdown is continuation of DONG where Darkseid is shown monitoring the events in countdown.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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celeyhyga17 is putting on a clinic. Nice job celey.

Talk about 'king troll' getting bottom


crylaugh

Pathetic. Simply pathetic.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
On the ground moaning.
http://oi68.tinypic.com/2yov39h.jpg

Then owned further without a sign of recovering.
http://oi67.tinypic.com/2m65x85.jpg
http://oi67.tinypic.com/wugni8.jpg

She wasn't taken out by a gas line as you claimed.

Neither was she beaten by the lightning. Nobody enjoys getting pinned down by lightning.

Thor has been koed far less.

Of course she has. Wtf is Ocean Master, Less Than A Man(owned Orion), DD...?

Neither of them are top tiers.

You claimed she has no lows. Proven wrong. You claimed she has beaten all to tiers she has faced. Wrong again.

You have some serious reading comprehension issues. Orm, Minotaur or Doomsday were all herald wreckers.

Stop putting the proverbial foot in the mouth.

Stop being an idiot. Oh right, you can't do that.

Read above.

Sorry, your gibberish once is enough.

Irrelevant.

Haha.

He was exhausted and he was hurt. You got caught lying again about not being able to fly.. Lol.

So why was Diana helping him to fly you idiot? He got better in sun.

Stop the presses.

And? He can't use Mjolnir now in this fight? Sure he can heal, but a little stab wound does not equal a big @$$ gaping hole made by a big @$$ hammer.

Unless Thor can rip him in half and breath down all his spores, Doomsday will just draw life force from him and heal again.

Yes. Ulik amped by a Mjolnir type weapon. Seriously?

Ulik wasn't amped in strength. And it was all an illusion anyway.

Lol... And Superman wasn't in dire straits when he killed Doomsday? Lol...

Thor has no hopes of replicating that.

Hey.. Seeing as Thor will recognize the type of threat DD poses, yes he will resort to killing.

Good luck with that.

Seriously? You ran in the other thread and now you want to bring this up here?

crylaugh

Oh the delusions. Your bitching and moaning in that thread and now here too?

You are simply delusional at this point.

No. Hurting a skyfather type being with enough power that it sends him packing and licking his wounds in Jotunheim is.

That never happened. He broke the ice shell which was never Ymir.

Afraid to guess I see...

Afraid to guess?

😂

Why don't you tell in the next post you will start preparing now and post in the next week in hope of getting the last word?

I'll see how far you can go before conceding. No last words here.

👆

I want you two to make out.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I want you two to make out.

😱 😆

Originally posted by Mr Master
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celeyhyga17 is putting on a clinic. Nice job celey.

Talk about 'king troll' getting bottom


Just to point it out, Master specifically came in this thread to cheerlead Celey after getting his ass handed to him.

LOB has taught you well master.

👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, you really are a glutton for punishment.

Good to know.

Where did I say that there were no survivors? Mongul and Non were shown to be alive in the scans I posted after all.


Here u go.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Wonder Woman, Mongul, Non and several kryptonians, killed everyone in phantom zone and shit like that.


Strong enough to weather the energy rift which was about to destroy entire earth.

facepalm
How was it going to destroy earth? What does it have to do with anything in regards to Non's strength? Lol........


That's not made clear. But they do have enough power to beat the shit out of Phantom Stranger and crucify him.

http://i.imgur.com/4STdNl5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QPKhLn2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fXXaANv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3KdKIVD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fd9VVGN.jpg

Later three of them were seen taking on Stranger as well.

Haha, I really don't know what's more pathetic. Your circular reasoning or your insistence that the kryptonians did not have powers.

Keep it up.


Ok first things first. OMFG! I am truly embarrassed for you. Why in god's name would you cite this as proof? Phukkin why? People put in the PZ become incorporeal. They lose their physical body. Superman himself told PS that he dematerialized after entering. During Superman Doomed, the laws of the PZ became wonky because of the rift/tear.
facepalm
It's right in your own scan.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WPYn3pV5mfg/Vv44DsDTEGI/AAAAAAAAIXE/j4Npu-nV3usRua11rHjCUuBIBsQhBzCZgCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO009.jpg

This is some Mr. Fantastic level of reaching here. Your desperation is palpable.

Now as to the Kryptonians crucifying him, pretty sure it was Xadu who ensnared PS after getting tricked. The Kryptonians here did not have "super powers" in the traditional sense must like Clark.


Of course you can.

How can you downplay Non's super strength when it was Non-existent. Pun intended. I mean seriously?


Superstrength, Superspeed and shit like usual.

I'd like to see where they are stated to be powerless.


Smh... Like I said, other than having access to weaponry/armor, they were powerless. Come on. Keep coming at me with more ridiculous statements. It's your grave not mine.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, oh the delusions.

Who did he beat? How did he beat them? Who is this "they"?

Originally posted by abhilegend

So can every herald worth his salt.

Keep running from a simple question. Its really amusing you trying to hop it away.


Count how many times someone has dented the skull of on of the most durable heralds in all of comics....

I didn't run. In fact you were given examples which you chose to ignore. The only one running is you.

Originally posted by abhilegend

You are basically inventing something which I never said.

Like when?


We'd get lost if I cite all your smokescreens. But in this particular issue, sure thing. First you claimed Thor can't fight off multiple high tier beings. Then you say "w/o the dominance of Doomsday". To which I say again he can and he has. Simple...

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, oh the butthurt. You screwed up. Own up to it.

SO yo conceded that Thor is weaker than even the weakest version of this doomsday.
Good, good.


Screwed up making a double post because of using a smartphone? Sure. Where was I avoiding it? Hey if you think a typing error is a mini victory for you have it.
😂
We all know it hasn't gone well for you for since my first reply.

Originally posted by abhilegend

I can do better than that. Superman was himself brought to his knees by just a brief exposure.
http://i.imgur.com/bmVgIM4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CZ8Ma7p.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F5d0uF7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FVG3UVy.jpg

And New 52 Superman is vastly more powerful than even pre flashpoint Superman who he oneshotted in a weakened state.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592345/Superman_2011-_052-014.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592357/Superman_2011-_052-015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592382/Superman_2011-_052-016.jpg.html

Insanely impressive as Superman is back at full power after Truth ended as per Dan Jurgens.
https://twitter.com/thedanjurgens/status/743479302646177792

Doomsday was manhandling him like nothing at that point.


Are you delirious? N52 Superman just finished fighting DD from earth to Venus and back to earth. Brief exposure? I mean wtf?

It's debatable whether N52 Clark is more powerful. And that's not a one-shot....
😬

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, she wasn't. His poison brought Superman to his knees in a few pages.

She didn't stop. She was ready to continue. Are we reading the same book here?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/4099549-0316463183-38213.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3821356-2014-05-14+07-43-38+-+superman+-+doomed+001-019.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/4099552-0647241862-38213.jpg
http://www.the-medium-is-not-enough.com/images/SMD1_04.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend

So just repeating yourself now, eh?

New 52 Superman would rip Thor in half as well if he went all out. You are not getting how ridiculously overpowered he was.

Even a portion of his power was enough to oneshot Diana and Supergirl twice.

He can stalemate a powered up Darkseid in energy blasts while dying and shrug off attacks from Mobius which were killing Lanterns left and right and killed Ultraman straight up.

He was straight up more powerful than entire Justice League combined.


Yes until it sinks in.

Lol... Finally this is what it's all about. I had a feeling the mindless wanking would come screaming out sooner or later.

Should I now say Thor only tangles with Skyfathers, Celestials, and Beyonders? Smdh...

Originally posted by abhilegend

Of course she does. Even you admitted she was a peer. Now backtracking again I see.

Heck, she was taking attacks from a powered up Darkseid just fine just recently in Darkseid war.

Diana already did.
Diana explicitly held all of league in check and flung them all away after matching them.


Lol that's not backtracking. Obviously there are certain degrees to having peers.
She belongs in the same class yes. But I'll take Thor, Superman, and Surfer over her any day of the week.

They weren't operating at optimal conditions. Still it was a good showing.

Originally posted by abhilegend

None were stated to be superstrong.

Bor wasn't under her control at that point.

None of them had their powers. Not like Thor oevrpowered them either. He jumped at Hela in between of them kicking the shit out of him.


Hehehe. Not saying they were exactly like Thor, but scan was pretty clear. Created by Ego using Thor as a molecular template to serve as his army to "control all creation".
http://i.imgur.com/JzuP7ah.jpg

Hehehe. He tanked an initial attack and busted through trampling a few of them on the way. Again... Majeston Zelia, Forsung, Bor, Desaak, Skurge, etc.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Wut? Lex straight up said Doomsday ran from Superman.

He hypothesized that it may still be trying to grow and gain more strength. He didn't straight up say it. But ok I'll give you that.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, oh you fool. He wasn't trying to drain Thor there. He even goes all "fight with honor" and beat Thor down with his fists.

No, he didn't.
Hahaha, somehow Demogorge is disintegrating the bodies of everyone he drained but ate Thor whole.
This denial is just pathetic.


Christ almighty. If you still can't understand what's going on in those scans, you never will.

Lol.. Show me Thor disintegrated.
Dude... You suck at this.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, oh the delusions.

At the end of DONG Source dispatched him to kill Darkseid. By Editorial **** up he appeared as before but the story in Countdown is continuation of DONG where Darkseid is shown monitoring the events in countdown.


Where does it show that he had power beyond his own?

Just tell him what you really feel, you sexy panther, you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
She wasn't taken out by a gas line as you claimed.

Neither was she beaten by the lightning. Nobody enjoys getting pinned down by lightning.

Thor has been koed far less.


Sure she was. Denial becomes you.

Yes he has. His highs also shiets on hers.. 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend

Neither of them are top tiers.

You have some serious reading comprehension issues. Orm, Minotaur or Doomsday were all herald wreckers.

Stop being an idiot. Oh right, you can't do that.


Wait what? Are you saying they are trans?
hysterical

You were already proven wrong.

Foot, meet mouth.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Sorry, your gibberish once is enough.

Haha.


More useless drivel...

Originally posted by abhilegend

So why was Diana helping him to fly you idiot? He got better in sun.

Stop the presses.


No because DD had specifically drained his energy you dolt. Why would she not? He just fought somebody that spanned from earth to venus and back. Plus he inhaled DD's aura. It doesn't absolutely mean he could not fly. He zoomed out right away after not being able to stomach Luthor's presence. You have the most ridiculous thought process. Utterly ridiculous.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Unless Thor can rip him in half and breath down all his spores, Doomsday will just draw life force from him and heal again.

Wtf is this dumb shiet? When Thor kills him, he will either absorb his toxic aura or scatter them to the cosmic winds. His options are endless.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Ulik wasn't amped in strength. And it was all an illusion anyway.

For all intents and purposes he was the thunder god wielding a Mjolnir tpe weapon. It wasn't a simple illusion. Karnilla had manipulated the fates into messing with Thor's destiny. Learn to interpret.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Thor has no hopes of replicating that.

Good luck with that.


😂
If he takes Doomsday seriously, he will kill him.

Originally posted by abhilegend

crylaugh

Oh the delusions. Your bitching and moaning in that thread and now here too?

You are simply delusional at this point.


Truth hurts? Keep running.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That never happened. He broke the ice shell which was never Ymir.

Oh really? Where did Ymir flee to after he ate lightning?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Afraid to guess?

😂

Why don't you tell in the next post you will start preparing now and post in the next week in hope of getting the last word?

I'll see how far you can go before conceding. No last words here.

👆


I'll wait for your guess.

Hey Abby, you are getting blown out. Why not man up for once and admit when you've been proven wrong on multiple points?