Darth Vader vs. Darth Plagueis

Started by Rebel952 pages

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
This logic may not work, but it's what I follow.

ROTJ Palpatine>ROTS palpatine

Vader=80% of ROTJ Palpatine

Plagueis>= TPM palpatine.

TPM Palpatine<ROTJ Palpatine.


So what's your conclusion

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Plagueis also just gives off the aura of being cosmologically stronger than Vader,

IMO, Darth Plagueis > Darth Vader

However, Darth Vader have some great feats going for him.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
given his unbalancing the Force,

This was not a solo achievement.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
creating weather storms via his presence,

This is open to debate. Some are not convinced that Darth Plagueis have a hand in this (skeptics include The_Tempest).

Originally posted by The Ellimist
mastering sorcery despite a lack of any talent for it through sheer willpower,

He didn't.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
etc. In terms of combat feats, he has punched through battle armor and disintegrated squads of armored soldiers with uncharged tk, deflected fire from hundreds of battle droids at once, etc. - but he faces people significantly weaker than Vader, so it's hard to judge from that only.

When did Darth Plagueis deflect firepower of hundreds of droids?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
There's still the back blurb of the hardcover that pens him as the most powerful sith to his time in history.

Right.

Darth Bane have a similar blurb to his name. Let us take it seriously too.

Originally posted by Rebel95
So what's your conclusion

Vader win.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Darth Bane have a similar blurb to his name. Let us take it seriously too.

I know english isn't your first language, but:

"If the dark side's most powerful master can capture the ultimate secret, the Sith will never die"

is significantly different than:

"Plagueis was the most powerful Sith Lord who ever lived."

Originally posted by Trocity
I know english isn't your first language, but:

"If the dark side's most powerful master can capture the ultimate secret, the Sith will never die"

is significantly different than:

"Plagueis was the most powerful Sith Lord who ever lived."


Both statements carry same message.

They don't, though. 😬

👆

Being "the dark side's most powerful master" doesn't necessarily imply 'ever' anymore than claiming to be "the world's strongest man" means you are the strongest in history, just in the present.