Widow was impressive against Rumlow's troops, but when she actually had to face Crossbones himself (a non-fodder opponent) she only managed to land a few ineffectual hits before getting fairly casually manhandled and tossed down a hatch. And while Clint did hold his own against BP for a bit, that's all he did. And Black Panther clearly was not trying to kill Clint. Wade won't simply try to disarm and KO him. He'd stick a sword right through Clint's chest at the first opportunity he got. So I still think the team's best shot is taking Wade out before he can get close.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Widow's ranged electrical stun would be a good countermeasure against DP, he should still be vulnerable to getting stunned by it. W/c would allow Hawkeye to finish him via explosive arrow.
Yeah, I do believe the team actually takes a majority in this scenario, because they have a notable ranged advantage over Wade here. As I pointed out, Hawkeye alone > Wade in ranged combat, and now he has Widow with those electrical darts, plus she usually carries a pair of sidearms, for support as well.
Black Widow is completely outmatched by DP. Her fighting skill may be on par but DP's healing and (seemingly) enhanced physical stats give him the win. Hawkeye would have been similarly disadvantaged if not for his exploding arrows. I assume an exploding arrow to the head should at least take DP out of the fight, even if he could heal from it.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Black Widow is completely outmatched by DP. Her fighting skill may be on par but DP's healing and (seemingly) enhanced physical stats give him the win. Hawkeye would have been similarly disadvantaged if not for his exploding arrows. I assume an exploding arrow to the head should at least take DP out of the fight, even if he could heal from it.
Well, I think no one would argue against how badly outmatched BW is vs DP. There is no comparison.
However, I think it comes down to her primary weapon (electrical stun darts) being highly effective against his type of abilities and that her tactical smarts/acumen (she is extremely skilled at misdirection and deception) would no doubt allow her to easily out-think DP and land the first hit.
As soon as the first stun dart hits, Hawkeye can finish this with a few explosive arrows (if he heals, he'd likely get shot again).
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Well, I think no one would argue against how badly outmatched BW is vs DP. There is no comparison.However, I think it comes down to her primary weapon (electrical stun darts) being highly effective against his type of abilities and that her tactical smarts/acumen (she is extremely skilled at misdirection and deception) would no doubt allow her to easily out-think DP and land the first hit.
As soon as the first stun dart hits, Hawkeye can finish this with a few explosive arrows (if he heals, he'd likely get shot again).
Ok good point. Though to be fair, BW can't afford to get shot with DP's guns either. But yeah, I see your point. I guess the team wins this at range. CQC and DP wins.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
However, I think it comes down to her primary weapon (electrical stun darts) being highly effective against his type of abilities and that her tactical smarts/acumen (she is extremely skilled at misdirection and deception) would no doubt allow her to easily out-think DP and land the first hit.
Probably while he's explaining why his suit is red, or waving an underwear flag.
DP is has built up tolerances to pain like cutting his hand off also he showed speed while fighting like aiming and firing his gun before that one guy could throw that grenade he seem to take getting shot in stride. In the end he pretty much over powered Francis breaking his arms. He showed be tossed around a suv violently flipping over and over again with little trouble. A cool and under rated feat dropping 50 feet landing perfectly through a sun roof while the car was going 45-65mph was pretty cool