Saba Sebatyne and Leia Organa Solo vs Meetra Surik and Satele Shan

Fight takes place on a Telos beach.

Morals off.

Saba Sebatyne, good teammates, not even once.

Leia vs. Surik can probably go either way, though Leia's force feats are vastly superior.

Saba should take Satele every time, she's too powerful for her to dominate with the force and is more skilled than her. I wasn't impressed by anything she did in terms of lightsaber combat from Fatal Alliance to SOR, prior to that losing to Malgus twice and stalemating Angral aren't that great of feats to me.

I don't recall Satele stalemating Angral. Where was that from?

I do remember her attacking Baras to no avail.

Ah, I got them mixed up. Either way Saba is more than capable of replicating any of her skill feats imo.

Leia's stifling Traya's telekinesis in a dark side geyser, telekinesis that ragdolled numerous Jedi High Councillors with utter ease? I find that hard to believe.

Kavar being stated to have extremely potent powers and all of them having advanced knowledge of ways to channel the Force for defensive applications makes it an even more impressive feat.

People are forgetting that Leia and Saba have much greater natural synergy and access to Battle Meld.

Well I mean morals off and all, Meetra goes full Sever Force on them, but I don't like assuming they go straight nuking in versus match-ups.

Meetra Severing Leia? A direct descendant of Anakin? LOL.

Assuming power is even a factor, Krayt sever-draining Abeloth AND Luke comes to mind as the most glaring example.

His success was incredibly limited, and both of his targets were pretty damn weakened beforehand. Drain isn't the same as Sever at all, either.

Sever and Drain are stated to share some properties, not to mention the height of Drain utilises Sever Force.

Another example is Vodo pretty casually blocking Ulic Qel-Droma.

Meetra being a prodigy of the technique, so powerful with it that Vima has to teach Meetra how to control it. The very same Vima, the daughter of Nomi Sunrider, who has unprecedented mastery of blocking techniques.

Vodo blocked a voluntarily indefensible Qel-Droma with assistance, that I recall.

Leia's connection to the Force is much greater than Surik's.

Vodo took Ulic by surprise and then telekinetically ripped Ulic's lightsaber from his hand and temporarily blocks his Force powers. Ulic literally can't get out before Kun kills Vodo.

Ulic Qel-Droma is an all-time Sith Lord as stated in numerous sources, yet Vodo dumped on him with barely a gesture.

Leia being a Chosen One descendant is great, but that hardly renders her or her brother immune to offensive prowess. Again, I ask what Leia has done compared to a hindered, fatigued and injured Meetra stifling an amped and prep'd Traya's 'vast telekinetic prowess' on a geyser of Dark Side energy.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Vodo blocked a voluntarily indefensible Qel-Droma with assistance, that I recall.

Leia's connection to the Force is much greater than Surik's.

"Master Vodo and Nomi Sunrider know of the "blocking" technique Master Odan-Urr had taught... The other Jedi add their powers to cement a temporary wall of light, imprisoning Ulic."--Tales of the Jedi

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It wasn't really by surprise. Ulic knew when they showed up and even talked to them before being disarmed and severed.

Which, surprise surprise, vanishes completely upon Vodo's death, with Nomi right there. 😬

Almost as if Vodo was maintaining it.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Which, surprise surprise, vanishes completely upon Vodo's death, with Nomi right there. 😬

Almost as if Vodo was maintaining it.

Erm... that wasn't even in context to my post. Unless you're trying to dispute that Vodo didn't actually have help, in spite of it being directly stated that he did, then this post of yours is pretty pointless.

Not to mention that nothing in the comic itself suggests Ulic felt the Force immediately upon Vodo's death. Proof please.

They helped him build it but he maintained it, when Vodo dies the light around Ulic appears to dim and he suddenly bursts free from his restraints. Remember Nomi directing the Wall of Light on Yavin IV? That is because she like Vodo was the center for the power being gathered.

Originally posted by AncientPower
They helped him build it but he maintained it, when Vodo dies the light around Ulic appears to dim and he suddenly bursts free from his restraints.

Scans.

Remember Nomi directing the Wall of Light on Yavin IV? That is because she like Vodo was the center for the power being gathered.

I don't really care until you prove the above with actual, ya know, evidence.

Edit: Ulic's restraints are broken as Exar Kun enters the Senate. Not after Vodo's death. And there's no light dimming. Where are you getting this? 😬

I misremembered that part of the trial, apologies.