Originally posted by FreshestSlice
They let the Wrath in because Vowrawn let them in, and Vowrawn already knew Baras wasn't the Voice of the Emperor. He also called Baras nearly indestructible, so that's not really a point in your favor.
It's a point in my favor when Baras calls the DC to defend him and to destroy the Wrath before the fight even starts and they all decline. Why would they decline if the really thought he was actually the Voice? After all, they'd be opposing the Emperor himself. I doubt they'd take that fat chance if they didn't seriously doubt Baras.
Originally posted by Petrus
It's a point in my favor when Baras calls the DC to defend him and to destroy the Wrath before the fight even starts and they all decline. Why would they decline if the really thought he was actually the Voice? After all, they'd be opposing the Emperor himself. I doubt they'd take that fat chance if they didn't seriously doubt Baras.
You might want to go watch that scene again.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Lel. They decline because both would bring the Emperor's will, so someone has to be dying. Yes, they would, even if they thought he was the Voice for this very reason. That's the reason Marr states he's staying out of it, because he doesn't want to anger the Emperor. 😬You might want to go watch that scene again.
Sure, but considering Marr telling him "as long as you stay out of our way, we'll stay out of yours" would be basically telling it to the Emperor himself, it doesn't at all seem that he really believed the Wrath was actually the Wrath and the Emperor's will itself.
Originally posted by AncientPower
>Hyperbole
>Stupid
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>Lord Scourge performs comparatively poorly to Meetra throughout the novel
>Lord Scourge is rendered numb to emotion in the months following Revan.
>Lord Scourge's 'great potential' is his ability to gorge on emotion.
>Lord Scourge can shitstomp Meetra.I'm done with the Neph TOR wank, thanks very much.
Originally posted by Petrus
Sure, but considering Marr telling him "as long as you stay out of our way, we'll stay out of yours" would be basically telling it to the Emperor himself, it doesn't at all seem that he really believed the Wrath was actually the Wrath and the Emperor's will itself.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Concession accepted.
You can't argue a stone. Literally all the evidence is there but you're choosing to champion a "Drew Karpyshyn is an exemplary writer thus he would never leave anything out to be solved by readers." Even though he already stated hr leaves things out such as amps on purpose amd leaves that to the aforementioned readers, I.E. Us.
I actually think that he's a shit writer and he's way too mediocre to put subtleties like that into his books. If he were any good he would have found a way to imply them intelligently in a way readers could actually recognize. Instead there's nothing and you're fabricating arguments out of your anus.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Scourge had enormous potential though. Even if he peaked very early, he still would have improved substantially and he gained an amp from Vitiate as well as bio-chemical enhancements. It's inarguable that he would have massively improved in those 300 years in terms of power and ability.
Yet his special gift, essentially described as his most powerful asset:
"You have a special gift, you do not just feed on the raw emotions of your foe, you gorge yourself on them. You feast on their primal fear. It amplifies your hate and anger. It fuels the power of the Force. It transforms you into an instrument of death and destruction.""I wonder that this wasn't observed in you, even the most powerful gift needs guiding to be used effectively."
-Darth Nyriss, Star Wars The Old Republic Revan
Something that allows him to siphon his enemies' power, something Meetra has met countless times against the Triumvirate:
“Xedrix surrounds himself with acolytes of the dark side. Your talent will let you feed on their power and turn it against them. The greater your opponent’s connection to the Force, the stronger you become.”
-Darth Nyriss, Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan
Was lost in becoming immortal:
“As time passes you will learn to accept and endure your suffering,” the Emperor answered. “Your mind and body will find ways to deal with the pain. After many months you will become accustomed enough to it to function in your role as the Emperor’s Wrath. Eventually you will simply become numb, unable to feel anything at all.”“Why?” Scourge asked, his voice something between a sob and a moan.
“Everything has a cost,” the Emperor explained. “This is the price of immortality.”
-Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan
Why do you keep ignoring this? Yes the Emperor somehow boosted his combat prowess and he has implants boosting his physicality. But that is merely filling in for his greatest gift in the Force, which was lost in the process of becoming immortal.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I actually think that he's a shit writer and he's way too mediocre to put subtleties like that into his books. If he were any good he would have found a way to imply them intelligently in a way readers could actually recognize. Instead there's nothing and I'm going to sticky fingers in my ears and ignore evidence against my poor dismissal logic.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Because you're assuming the Exile would be absolutely fine, after suffering near discorporation into trillions of subatomic particles and having her energy sapped. That is absolutely farcicle, and a red herring isn't helping your logic at all.
Revan and Malak hung around Nathema way longer than her and were fine. 👆
The fact Surik could only handle a couple hours minutes is pathetic on her part.