Originally posted by SunRazer
Kyp's freighter feat is outmatched by Anakin's dreadnaught showing, which happened before Anakin received multiple power increases to reach the peak of his power. It's really only the Dovin Basal feat that's superior.
Yeah, I'm not going to take anything performed in that series at face-value for obvious reasons. Besides - even if I did take that at absolute - that's only TK.
Kyp has a wider array of abilities (Force drain, Force Lightning, Force destruction, Alter Environment, Force absorption) and just strikes me as the more masterful and adroit Forc sensitive in general.
This is not to mention Durron far and away superior telepathic showings among other things. Basically, the only thing that can be argued for Ani is TK. Everything else is clearly in Durron's favor.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You mean, you only take feats from Kyp at face value.
Yeah, because they don't come from sources that has Jedi jumping around like the The Hulk in duels, or exaggerate The Force to a laughable degree.
Taking it at face-value, Anakin should have zero trouble pulling of the telekinetic showings his later - far more powerful self, gave effort to. Buuut, what do you know; he visibly strains to push escape pods into a star, and taps into his rage to collapse a dome.
Both of which, pale in actual juxtaposition with moving a ****ing dreadnought with planet razing capabilities against it's will.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Who are you referring to?
Streen and Dorsk 81.
Both of which, casually tossed AT-ST's with casual ease, the latter of which did so with simple Force repulse after Kyp told him to stop doubting himself and let loose. Streen just conjured up winds that casually threw aside multiples AT-ST's. Said winds impacted the aforementioned Walkers with enough Force to actually crack it pushed two of them that impacted with enough force to crush them.
Once you consider the fact that: accolades, Luke, and the overall narrative surrounding Durron --- paints him as someone significantly above all his peers in the Force --- then Kyp is actually looking pretty good right now.
I recall the scene you're referring to, but at the same time am skeptical that what you're saying happened is what happened.
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I'm just going to post the quote so you can make up with it what you will:
She rose suddenly, in a fluid blur, one hand thrown toward the older Jedi. Dark lightning crackled from her fingers and surrounded him in a shining nimbus. He flew back and struck the wall hard. His eyes narrowed, and the deadly aura disappeared. Jaina’s eyes widened in surprise. “If I can summon it, I can dispel it,” he told her. “You’re not the only one who took that path
---Excerpt from Dark Journey
He did something similar to that in The Apprentice too, but I can't be bothered to dig up the quote right now, since I ain't even home.
Oh, when was this?
Darksaber. Again, no quote on me, but I'll prolly post it whenever I get home.
I'll get to the rest later, I gotta jet.
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Yeah, because they don't come from sources that has Jedi jumping around like the The Hulk in duels, or exaggerate The Force to a laughable degree.
Taking it at face-value, Anakin should have zero trouble pulling of the telekinetic showings his later - far more powerful self, gave effort to. Buuut, what do you know; he visibly strains to push escape pods into a star, and taps into his rage to collapse a dome.
Both of which, pale in actual juxtaposition with moving a ****ing dreadnought with planet razing capabilities against it's will.
Yeah, you can't be selective about the insanity of feats. Anakin's a very inconsistent character thanks to his emotional state and a couple of incompetent writers, but generally speaking, as someone with by far the highest amount of raw power in the mythos, it's really not that believable for him to be moving the Dreadnaughts.
And I'm aware that Kyp's better in other areas - unfortunately, most of those aren't applicable in a fight.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
NJO isn't as uniformly "exaggerated". Kyp stands out whereas padawan Anakin doesn't as much in OCW.
I mean you can ignore the fact that he replicated the black hole better than Luke did, but that actually did happen, and you can't change that.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
[B]NJO? Not exaggerated? Are you high?
Not to the extent as the OGCW series, no.
Plus, given that Kyp's OP'ness has spanned three different era's now, consistently; I don't see why this is actually a problem.
Pick an era, and Kyp is sporting either ridiculous hype, accolades, or feats. With Anakin though? Sans that one ludicrous feat, he isn't really sporting TK feats that match Durron IMO.
Maybe because it's a different medium?
If the size of the dreadnought was the cause of its capabilities, maybe.
Okay, shit point I admit, as size =/= destructive power concededly. Still doesn't change the fact that Obi-Wan's 12 meter (I think? Not an expert of ship sizes)
long Jedi Starfighter was sliding over the Dreadnought with much space to spare - implying the size of that thing was rather monumental.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
That's actually really bizarre... He talks about it like his knowledge of FL is what allows him to cancel it out, so I don't think it's absorption... Not sure what else to classify it as, though.
Whelp, what ever umbrella of abilities it fall under, it still indicates a great degree of Force power, and mastery.
Yeah, you can't be selective about the insanity of feats. Anakin's a very inconsistent character thanks to his emotional state and a couple of incompetent writers, but generally speaking, as someone with by far the highest amount of raw power in the mythos, it's really not that believable for him to be moving the Dreadnaughts.And I'm aware that Kyp's better in other areas - unfortunately, most of those aren't applicable in a fight.
So what you're saying is: we should just ignore Anakin's consistency, and take a out-lier feat that makes zero sense when juxtoposed with his later, factually primed up self, from clearly exaggerated medium at face-value just 'cause?
KK.
Also, dunno how abilities like Force lightning, Force destruction, Alter Environment, and Electro Magnetic manipulation for that pesky hand of Ani, and such is useless in one-on-one combat, but whatevs B.