TOR Scourge vs Meetra Surik

Started by Jmanghan3 pages

I don't believe Nyriss beating Scourge and Meetra is a good feat for her, I believe its a bad showing for Meetra and Scourge as a team.

Like Luke getting captured by X1 or getting TK'ed by Desann.

Lol.

Kreia was obviously Arren Kae, which Avellone all but confirmed, making her an excellent Jedi warrior over a decade before her prime, near on par with Yusanis.

Sion slaughtered Jedi for decades as a Sith Marauder from the onset of the Exar Kun War, he's actually implied to be one of the students Exar Kun corrupts with a Sith spirit.

Those 'fodder' Sith were the elite remnants of Darth Revan's Sith Assassin sect, whom were all already expert Revanchists. Many of them were Bladeborn and even Blademasters, as in those who earnt Sith Tremor Swords by killing no less than ten Jedi. Over-all the Revan novel states that the Sith Triumvirate were responsible of killing tens of thousands of Jedi, veterans of the Jedi Civil War.

Meetra Surik is an incredibly skilled Jedi guardian, her lightsaber prowess defeated Master Atris, a superior of the famed lightsaber instructor Kavar who was considered the face of the Jedi Guardians. Of which there were many expert duelists.

Then Atris learnt ancient Sith combat techniques from dozens of Sith holocrons, the same Sith who Kreia infers makes modern day Jedi appear like children. Not unlike Exar Kun accrediting his thrashing of Vodo to a 'correct' use of Sith teachings.

Keep up with those brain farts you call arguments Carthage. 👆

Originally posted by AncientPower
Lol.

Kreia was obviously Arren Kae, which Avellone all but confirmed, making her an excellent Jedi warrior over a decade before her prime, near on par with Yusanis.

Sion slaughtered Jedi for decades as a Sith Marauder from the onset of the Exar Kun War, he's actually implied to be one of the students Exar Kun corrupts with a Sith spirit.

Those 'fodder' Sith were the elite remnants of Darth Revan's Sith Assassin sect, whom were all already expert Revanchists. Many of them were Bladeborn and even Blademasters, as in those who earnt Sith Tremor Swords by killing no less than ten Jedi. Over-all the Revan novel states that the Sith Triumvirate were responsible of killing tens of thousands of Jedi, veterans of the Jedi Civil War.

Meetra Surik is an incredibly skilled Jedi guardian, her lightsaber prowess defeated Master Atris, a superior of the famed lightsaber instructor Kavar who was considered the face of the Jedi Guardians. Of which there were many expert duelists.

Then Atris learnt ancient Sith combat techniques from dozens of Sith holocrons, the same Sith who Kreia infers makes modern day Jedi appear like children. Not unlike Exar Kun accrediting his thrashing of Vodo to a 'correct' use of Sith teachings.

Keep up with those brain farts you call arguments Carthage. 👆

Nihilus was a bigger threat then Sion, Traya, and Atris combined.

Thats her best showing to date.

Beating Traya, and Traya force-stomping 3 near-featless Jedi Masters are both not that impressive.

Nihilus was weakened, though sources have also attributed the Exile and Visas Marr's combined might as the source of his downfall. What that has to do with lightsaber skill though is beyond me.

If you didn't listen in the last thread, you're going to be just as blatantly ignorant in this one. Vrook Lamar, Kavar and Zez-Kai Ell are far from featless, don't give Selenial or Beni a reason to humiliate you too.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Nihilus was weakened, though sources have also attributed the Exile and Visas Marr's combined might as the source of his downfall. What that has to do with lightsaber skill though is beyond me.

If you didn't listen in the last thread, you're going to be just as blatantly ignorant in this one. Vrook Lamar, Kavar and Zez-Kai Ell are far from featless, don't give Selenial or Beni a reason to humiliate you too.

Oh, I just looked at their respect thread, and being "one of the most powerful Jedi Masters" of their time isn't impressive when there aren't that many powerful Jedi Masters to begin with.

Nothing they have done is impressive enough to consider them good.

Dark side choices are non-canon, so they don't count.

It doesn'tmatter if they're non-canon when absolutely nothing suggests they are for some reason more powerful in the dark side fights than they are otherwise. Look up common sense.

Ancientpower posts a wall of text and doesn't show anything that actually disproves my statement of Meetra beating no one with any feats of note 👆

You're a moron if you think Atris isn't notable.

Nowhere near as skilled as Nyriss who stomped Meetra with ease. 👆

Atris the librarian holy shit what a monstrous opponent?!

Atris who is the most knowledgeable master of the bunch, with a mastery of lightsaber combat on the highest tiers combined with Sith combat techniques from dozens of ancient Sith holocrons.

She's clearly quite incredible given she can solidly defeat Brianna who speedblitzed her five fellow Handmaidens, who all have high tier Echani Battle Precognition.

Nyriss didn't stomp Meetra, she overmatched her on a nexus that's prevented Meetra's highest abilities with augmentation. Get your facts straight, moron.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Pretty sure Nyriss was just building up the energy from within herself to annihilate Scourge and Meetra. At least, it's not remotely implied she's tapping into the environment in a way that, say, Zannah did with Ambria. And instantly ashing herself/Meetra/Scourge with the FLS is indeed an order of magnitude beyond Dooku, Kek.

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The text draws parallels with what Xedrix did by pooling all his strength into a single attack. Nyriss just amped herself up by gathering as much of her power as she needed.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Meetra taking on an entire academy of sith solo > Kas'im

TBF, PoD makes it fairly apparent that Kas'im could have solo'd the Korriban academy if he wanted to in my opinion.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Beating Traya, and Traya force-stomping 3 near-featless Jedi Masters are both not that impressive.

C'mon man, we just went over this. Go read Beni's post in the Ahsoka thread and come back here. 😬

Except the Korriban Academy <<<< the Malachor Academy.

If you say so. The fact that Kas'im was surprised he didn't instantly stomp Bane makes me think he could slaughter his way through Malachor though.

You're ignoring the fact Kas'im would have an amp even if he could do the same.

I considered it as if he were in the same circumstances as the Exile.